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Author Topic:   Where Did The (Great Flood) Water Come From And Where Did It Go?
Juvenissun
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Message 420 of 432 (880580)
08-07-2020 6:31 PM
Reply to: Message 417 by dwise1
08-07-2020 1:09 PM


Re: One Off Topic Note
OK, you ignorant idiot.
Your insulting word up in the front destroys ALL you said after that. So if you can't help to use it, please put it at the end. So I would at least read through what you said.

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Juvenissun
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Message 421 of 432 (880581)
08-07-2020 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 418 by FLRW
08-07-2020 3:14 PM


Re: Re evidence
There is no violation of the first law of thermodynamics if the universe is not a closed system. If the universe came from something else (if, for instance, it started as a region of spacetime pinching off from a black hole in another spacetime, as proposed by Smolin 1997) then there still would be no conflict with the first law of thermodynamics, because on such a scenario the universe was not always a closed system, and would have inherited its initial energy from whatever it came from.
With that scope of view, the whole universe may not be a closed system. But for short-sighted geologist, the earth IS a closed system.

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Juvenissun
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Message 423 of 432 (880596)
08-07-2020 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 422 by Coragyps
08-07-2020 7:08 PM


Re: Re evidence
A closed system if you ignore the sun. It’s too hot here this month to ignore it.
Yeah. It is quite interesting to see that both Mars and Venus lost their water, but the earth is gaining more and more water in the history.

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Juvenissun
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Message 428 of 432 (880615)
08-08-2020 8:25 AM
Reply to: Message 424 by Coragyps
08-07-2020 10:34 PM


Re: Re evidence
I beg your pardon? How much water has the Earth gained in the last 100,000,000 years?
Good question. It could be a thesis for a master degree geology student.
That means, it is a workable problem. We can model the annual budget of water on the earth and find it out. The earth has way passed its peak dewatering stage. But the new (cognate) water is still continuously coming up to the surface through volcanic activity.
The key problem is: we may not see all the water generated just by measuring how much water shows up. A lot of water are generated in the mantle but temporary stay and accumulated in there.

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Juvenissun
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Message 429 of 432 (880616)
08-08-2020 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 425 by anglagard
08-07-2020 11:52 PM


Re: Re evidence
What "short-sighted" geologist are you referring to?
I don't know of any geologist who claims the "earth is a closed system."
Sorry, the term may mislead. A closed earth IS a working background for most geological researches, even we do know the earth is not really a closed system.

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