3 Theories Of Everything by Ellis Potter

just somebody else making shit up

They made the book up, but at least there is a book for you to believe in, nonsense though most of it is. But it's quite another thing when people start imagining and claiming all sorts of crap that is not in the book. They can say absolutely anything they like because it's not open to challenge. It's just religious babble with no verifyable meaning. Or to you, or anybody. You just swallow it whole because it fits your personal belief.

Of course.

What does he think an 'absolute' is? It sounds like he's just substituting a pseudo-philosophical term for a god. Bullshit. That's just the rationalisation of a believer. People don't believe in religious waffle because it's just dumb. I can't even work out what this is supposed to mean - if anything. Science is simply a method of understanding our universe. Scientism is a slander than those believing in magic use in an attempt to dismiss it because it threatens them.Humanism is a democratic and ethical life stance, which affirms that human beings have the right and responsibility to give meaning and shape to their own lives.The measure of everything? Again, he's just saying that humanists don't believe in god - wow who knew? - and being critical of then for not doing. That at least is true. The only intriguing thing about it is why anyone is fooled by a pile of incoherent twaddle.

They're the best in the book?It's a continuing source of puzzlement to me how you can read that totally unsubstantiated, almost meaningless tripe that's simply made up on the spot and be impressed by it.

The words and ideas that these people spout is totally made up - there's no other source for them. On the few occasions I'm forced into church - births, deaths and marriages - I hear the priest riff around such stuff as though no one with a critical mind is listening. Which I guess they're usually not and which is why they get away with it. Preaching to the converted. The same refuted stuff just keeps bouncing back as though it was never said. Most of us deal with the reality in front of us. If that ever involved this god thing of yours, we'd deal with it. You know, that stuff about when the facts change...?I know it's alien to you but realists are capable of changing their minds based on evidence. Try it, you might like it.

offs. Of course I understand your position! How many times have I explained to that I believed the same garbage as you do once. I completely get it.But it's a delusion - once the smoke blows away you feel a complete idiot for ever believing it. Of course you did. Just like you think everyone but you and your fellow Christian nutters think every other religion is made up. Despite those believers having exactly the same experience that you have and I had. Despite the fact that you couldn't have had your experience if you'd been born elsewhere or even to different parents. Wake up, you're not special. I already knew Phat. It hurts.

Science is not philosophy. And theology is neither.Theology is wholly made up, has no foundation in anything but a core feeling that mankind is special above all other organisms that are born and die. We made it all up for our own purposes and it became a power structure that survives only while it is culturally acceptable.Philosophy thinks that it can think itself an understanding of the world. Just by sitting in a chair and thinking really hard. At least it's rational and logical, but it gets nowhere if the conclusions it forms can't be tested in the real world. Science is the only thing we've invented that can test the real world an get reproducible, independent, objective answers.Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.