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Topic: Login Problems
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9567 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 7.3
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Message 1 of 9 (876363)
05-18-2020 4:01 AM
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I changed my password a while ago and have never been able to login from another machine other than the one I changed it from since. I use mac devices - iPad (this one), iMac and iPhone. These devices store passwords that can be easily copied and pasted between machines so I know I'm not simply inputting the password wrongly. I've also tried manually inputting it just in case, but it doesn't work. Am I going mad?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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RAZD
Member (Idle past 1601 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: 03-14-2004
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Message 2 of 9 (876372)
05-18-2020 11:39 AM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Tangle 05-18-2020 4:01 AM
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Check and see if they input your login name with an extra space at the end. I've had that problem on several devices. Enjoy
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9567 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 7.3
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Message 3 of 9 (876375)
05-18-2020 12:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 2 by RAZD 05-18-2020 11:39 AM
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Nope, still doesn't work...
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8631 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 8.1
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Message 4 of 9 (876383)
05-18-2020 1:53 PM
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Reply to: Message 3 by Tangle 05-18-2020 12:13 PM
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Your devices automagically fill in user/password from an encrypted stored list. Yet, something is not the same. In my devices there is a way for me to look at, in clear text, the actual name and password for any given site. Have you checked yours to see that every character is exact? Factio Republicana delenda est.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9567 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 7.3
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Message 5 of 9 (876384)
05-18-2020 2:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 4 by AZPaul3 05-18-2020 1:53 PM
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Yes, I've manually entered it. I'm going to temporarily change the password again to something very simple, just so I'm sure. If you don't hear from me again, you'll know Percy really hates me.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9567 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 7.3
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Message 6 of 9 (876385)
05-18-2020 2:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 5 by Tangle 05-18-2020 2:10 PM
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Ok, that did it. Can't explain it but a simpler password worked, I then made it a bit more complicated and that worked too. I’ll stop there!
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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kjsimons
Member Posts: 826 From: Orlando,FL Joined: 06-17-2003
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Message 7 of 9 (876388)
05-18-2020 4:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 6 by Tangle 05-18-2020 2:18 PM
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It would be interesting to see which special character was the offending one. It's possible one of you devices is using a different character encoding then the others and that one of the special characters is encoded differently. Just the musings of a software developer.
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Stile
Member (Idle past 239 days) Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: 12-02-2004
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Message 8 of 9 (876422)
05-19-2020 2:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 6 by Tangle 05-18-2020 2:18 PM
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I'd put kjsimons' suggestion above this one, but just an additional thought: Perhaps the password change "pushed" the error through the system. That is, once you changed the password, whatever was messing up is no longer present - maybe it was on your hardware/software side; maybe it was on Percy's software side; maybe a bit of both; maybe no actual "error" but more of just a strange "mis-alignment" - doesn't matter - it's gone now. If this is correct - you should be able to change back to your preferred password and everything should be okay. But - if there is an "offending character" as kjsimons suggests - this will not work.
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dwise1
Member Posts: 6058 Joined: 05-02-2006 Member Rating: 8.1
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Message 9 of 9 (876423)
05-19-2020 2:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 7 by kjsimons 05-18-2020 4:08 PM
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It would be interesting to see which special character was the offending one. It's possible one of you devices is using a different character encoding then the others and that one of the special characters is encoded differently. Just the musings of a software developer. Might have nothing to do with the problem, yet again it might be related. Years ago I was involved on a C Programming forum. A student had a simple program that would not compile -- kept throwing an unexpected character error. Just looking at it, nobody could see anything wrong; it was that simple of a program. So I copy and pasted it into a local file and tried to compile it. Sure enough, I got the exact same unexpected character error, quotation marks exactly where they belonged. Looking at a hex dump of the source code, instead of the ASCII code for double quotes (34) I saw some kind of extended codes (something like 198). That's when I realized that the kid had used a word processor instead of a text editor. An additional wrinkle is that some fonts show no difference between certain characters. An example of a bogus URL would be where "fullerton" is replaced with "ful1erton"; in some common fonts they would appear identical. I could never figure out a former brother-in-law's email address because a capital I looked like a lower-case l which looked like the numeral 1 -- I always had to copy and paste it from an old email (never thought of doing a hex dump).
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