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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1696 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Oops, fixed.
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jar Member (Idle past 91 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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It was an Alt-Left error.
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Percy Member Posts: 22940 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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About four years ago during the rise of Donald Trump the Republican Party began steering a path away from conservatism and toward...what? What does the Republican party stand for now? https://www.washingtonpost.com/...60-817cc18cf173_story.html answered the question this way:
quote: Because Trump is not a conservative but an eclectic mixture of his personal wants and desires, opposing Trump has nothing to do with conservatism. I'm for fiscal sanity, free trade, a strong defense, a foreign policy that opposes the world's bad players like Russia, and I think character counts. A lot. I oppose Trump because he has abandoned these core conservative values. And for now, as Republicans allow themselves to be led by the nose by Trump on a journey of insanity, I oppose Republicans, too, because the Republicans no longer stand for these things. I'm in good company. George Will has left the Republican party and also no longer supports Republicans. Where are the Republicans of principle? Jeff Flake and Bob Corker, who chose not to run in 2018, are gone and have dropped out of sight. You do see the occasional Jeff Flake opinion piece or public comment, but it's only to express regret over the direction the Republican party has taken rather than doing what is necessary, which is sounding the alarm. If McCain were still alive the strain of Republicans holding to core conservative values would also still be alive, but it seems to have died with him. Almost all Republicans today are doing whatever it takes to survive (meaning to be reelected) in this age of Trump until it is over. It's as if an entire party and all its supporters have gone off the deep end all at the same time. Lindsey Graham is the poster child for this Trumpian abandonment of principle. He hasn't been shy about explaining his change of heart about Trump, who in 2015 he called a "race-baiting xenophobic religious bigot." He says he became Trump's strongest supporter because he wanted to make a difference. What he actually did was take an unprincipled path of least resistance to political power. Lindsey Graham now stands for the very things he found so objectionable in Trump just a few years ago. This is why history will know Lindsey Graham as a politician of flexible principles rather than as a statesman. I wonder if Graham realizes that. To complete the picture of my positions on the major issues, I may be conservative about some things, but I'm liberal on social issues. I'm for helping rather than punishing those less fortunate than ourselves, especially those who through no fault of their own live in rural regions that are hollowing out from the inside or industrial regions that will never return to their vibrant days or coal mining regions that are doomed because coal is the worst thing you can do to an environment, both in the mining and the burning. I'm also for opening the country's doors to the poor and destitute and homeless and war torn of the world, for out of their dynamic springs the country's future prosperity. I'm for keeping our laws off women's bodies. I'm for exceptionally strong gun control for this most lethal of all appliances, and ultimately for banning them. I'm for dealing forthrightly with climate change. My bifurcated position on issues means that I have never registered under either party. I'm a registered independent. I have over my lifetime voted for both Republican and Democratic candidates. But the question remains: If the Republican party no longer stands for core conservative principles, then what does it stand for? --Percy
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PaulK Member Posts: 17912 Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
It stands for keeping the Republican Party in power first, and hating the Democrats and all their works second.
That’s been pretty obvious for the last few years, but Trump has really made it obvious to everyone.
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jar Member (Idle past 91 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Traditionally the Grand Old Party was not monolithic but rather a relatively broad spectrum of positions that were often included both liberal and conservative. On one end of that spectrum was the Liberal Republican segment epitomized by Theodore Roosevelt and Nelson Rockefeller while at the Conservative segment there was another spectrum with Barry Goldwater as the socially liberal Conservative and Ronald Reagan as the Fascist extreme end.
But as the Republican Party moved overall towards the Fascist extreme there was a similar shift towards the Conservative position in the Democratic Party to the extent that today's general Democratic candidate would be considered to the far right of even Republicans such as Nixon, Ike and Nelson Rockefeller. There really is almost no Liberals such as Hubert Humphrey left in today's Democratic Party.
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Taq Member Posts: 10297 Joined: Member Rating: 7.2 |
Percy writes: About four years ago during the rise of Donald Trump the Republican Party began steering a path away from conservatism and toward...what? What does the Republican party stand for now? It's the Fox News party now. It's much more about "owning libs" than actual policy or governing.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17912 Joined: Member Rating: 6.7
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I think it’s worse than that. Trump has already attacked Fox News for reporting things he doesn’t like.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1696 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Nothing liberals/leftists, including anybody here, say about Trump has any truth to it at all, or about Republicans. But of course the more delusional the opinion the more they set themselves up for another defeat because they just don't know what is going on. However, they do feed lies to the public and they do create a false political climate which will ultimately destroy the nation if liberals don't wake up and object to it.
I was just looking on You Tube for what the conservatives have to say about the Iranian situation and guess what, FAKE NEWS AND NOTHING BUT. NOTHING WHATEVER about the conservative point of view comes up, just reports on WHAT THE DEMOCRATS THINK!, how Iran is supposedly going to retaliate and other liberal lines. This is typical propaganda; this is FASCISM. This does not belong in America. Do you care? Are you going to justify it, rationalize it away? Do you really not know that all the major social internet outlets have made it so all you get when you look up anything conservative is liberal stuff? My blogs used to come up at the top of Google on my main topics, now I have to search for them. A caller on conservative talk radio said she'd posted some video on You Tube about Trump rallies because they are so energizing and exciting, and when she searched for what she'd posted she got nothing but negative stuff like about "protests at Trump rallies." Do you care? I put in the search line "Conservatives react to Iranian situation" and what did I get?: Check it out for yourself, nothing but the liberal point of view. Do you care? Do you think this is fair? Is it OK with you that conservatives are denied free speech by these liberal propaganda behemoths? DO YOU CARE? Are you willing to protest or are you just happy to see us shut up? Here, check out what I got on that search line: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Conservative... ABE: I get the conservative point of view from talk radio but I wanted to find something I could quote and post, that's why I was checking out You Tube. I was talking to a liberal friend earlier who is going to be spending some months in Saudi Arabia in the Spring and says she's afraid of the situation because of what Trump did by taking out a major Iranian terrorist leader. So I knew she was only getting the liberal opinion which of course can't say anything good about anything Trump does although if Obama had done the same thing they'd be heaping on the accolades, because EVERYTHING I hear is that Trump DID THE RIGHT THING. And I wanted to find a useful guote to that effect. Well, forget that in our current fascistic political atmosphere which only allows us to hear the liberal/leftist line. (As Reagan said, and I'll put up my signature on this where I quoted him), if fascism comes to America it will come in the form of liberalism. Well, here it is, you can see it for yourself but you're going to pretend it isn't happening aren't you?) So I knew what I was looking for, anything by any of the conservatives who support what Trump did. FAT CHANCE. We are living in Liberal Fascist America. WAKE UP! Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II. 2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan
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jar Member (Idle past 91 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Reality once again shows that you simply are totally out of touch.
Fascism cannot be a Liberal position. It can only be far right. Learn the basics Faith like what some words mean! Basics Faith, basics.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17912 Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
I see two videos from The Sun, one from The American Conservative, one from Fox News, and that’s before I get anywhere near the end of the list. Which is heavily dominated by news sources - not all of them ones I recognise.
Faith, I know you are upset at Liberals daring to tell the truth, but you could at least stop being so lazy in your silly conspiracy theorising.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1696 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I knew the obvious would be denied. Of course. The word "conservative" is in the search line, but the first oh maybe ten entries that come up do not have that word in it, but "democrat" and "iran" head the list. No fairness from you guys though, as I expected. PaulK, jar, so far. That's OK though, of course, the whole point is to get your fake stuff out there where the public take it as the truth. Free speech is only valid for liberals and Democrats.
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ringo Member (Idle past 664 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
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Liberal President? Liberal Senate? We are living in Liberal Fascist America."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1696 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Right. Let's see just how many ways you can come up with to obscure the truth. The POWER is on the side of the Democrats, they own the media, or the media own them, one or the other, and at the moment that means the House and the Media as a coalition of Power, including the Social Media. Right now this coalition make up the power centers of Liberal Fascist America. We've got the President, but the fascist powers are doing their best to destroy them because their target is America. They hate America, they have no respect for the separation of powers or anything based on the American Constitution. That's because their philosophical underpinnings are Marxist. I did wonder if there might be a fair and just voice on the LEft as I wrote this, but I've had that hope dashed already so many times I'm amazed I can keep it up.
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ringo Member (Idle past 664 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
The media has influence, not power.
The POWER is on the side of the Democrats, they own the media.... Faith writes:
And the Senate. We've got the President..."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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PaulK Member Posts: 17912 Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
quote: You mean that the obvious would be told. The Sun story is all about Trump’s comments. And that’s the third on the list, The American Conservative has one of their writers in Tucker Carlson There is an Al Jazeera story about Iranian Conservatives pushing you segregate universities in Iran.
quote: And ? So YouTube search doesn’t work the way that you think.
quote: There is no point because there is no conspiracy.
quote: Yawn, another hypocritical lie. What a surprise.
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