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RAZD Member (Idle past 1605 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
quote: Note: Each Chapter and subchapter can be individually downloaded or viewed online if you go to the volume links. Facts, not conspiracy theory fantasy pushed by GOP apologists and deniers. Read them, heed them, as you wish, but don't ignore them or dismiss them or you lose the argument. Enjoy for links and informationby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1605 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
quote: https://www.openmuellerreport.org/page394 Enjoyby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1644 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That is a bunch of weasel words with no legal standing whatever. They were unable to prove obstruction of justice (or any involvement with Russia to affect the election) and what that means legally is that he is not guilty and what THAT means in plain English is that he is exonerated.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2324 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
They were unable to prove obstruction of justice
nope they were unable to charge him with obstruction of justice.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1644 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Don't you get disgusted with all those weasel words they pile one on top of another?
If they can't charge him, THEN HE'S NOT GUILTY AND IF HE'S NOT GUILTY THEN HE'S EXONERATED.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17888 Joined: Member Rating: 8.3 |
quote: It’s not Mueller that is weaselling.
quote: Trump can’t be charged because he’s President. That doesn’t mean that he isn’t guilty or that he has been exonerated. It means that he can’t be charged even if he is obviously guilty.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2324 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
THEN HE'S NOT GUILTY AND IF HE'S NOT GUILTY THEN HE'S EXONERATED.
nope a "not guilty" comes at the end of a trial, yes there is a presumption of innocence but that is not the same as exonerated. Exonerated = charged and found not guilty, he was never charged. This isn't a black and white situation, not charging someone with a crime is not the same thing as someone being innocent of said crimeIt's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1644 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Weasel words galore. This is contrary to any other legal/judicial proceeding ever done in the US, trying to pretend he's still guilty wh4en you have nothing at all to prove it, nothing at all to charge him with. It's all a big fake. Not charging him IS finding him innocent. They didn't have the evidence to charge him, it's over, he's exonerated. I guess if enough of those who hate him just keep saying it over and over it will become true anyway though, won't it?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1644 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If what you say is true there was never any reason for an investigation at all since the whole point would have been to find something to charge him with or find nothing. Starr found crimes to charge Clinton with. That's the normal outcome of such an investigation. Or finding nothing. In Trump's case nothing was found, he's innocent, he's not guilty, he's exonerated, there is nothing to charge him with, it's only wishful thinking that keeps this charade alive.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17888 Joined: Member Rating: 8.3 |
quote: No, the point wat to gather evidence for the House, so they could decide whether to start impeachment proceedings. The House decided not to, but that’s because the obstruction was largely unsuccessful and because the House needed a really strong case to get past the Senate.
quote: Clinton was impeached, not prosecuted. And his offences were not deemed serious enough to remove him from office. You make my point. Even then Starr hounded Clinton to an extent well beyond anything Mueller did.
quote: Outright falsehoods as usual.
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JonF Member (Idle past 368 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Insufficient evidence to charge is not exoneration. Not allowed to charge slam-dunk cases because of administrative policy is not exoneration.
I note you cannot address the substance of the replies, just vomiting up the same bushwah. Oh, well, that's what we expect from Trumpistas. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 368 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
House needed a really strong case to get past the Senate.
No case could be strong enough to pass Moscow Mitch and Leningrad Lindsey.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2324 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Not charging him IS finding him innocent.
no not charging is not charging. He has the presumption of innocence seeing as he hasn't gone through a trial, but is not the same thing as exoneration.
This is contrary to any other legal/judicial proceeding ever done in the US, trying to pretend he's still guilty
not charged is not the same as not guilty Faith. I will fully admit that he hasn't been convicted of any crimes related to the russia investigation, but that's not the same thing as being found innocent of any crimes related to the russia investigation as the case never went to trial. Under your theory of "no charges = innocent" then all the uncaught murderers out there are actually innocent of their crimes.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2324 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
f what you say is true there was never any reason for an investigation at all since the whole point would have been to find something to charge him with or find nothing.
the whole point was to investigate russian interference in the 2016 election and any other crimes they came across. They indicted multiple russian individuals and agencies.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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