A Believers Critique Of The Humanist Manifesto

That was quite a rant.l To no good purpose that I can see since I said absolutely nothing that applies to anyone but myself and others who belive what I believe. And what I believe is based on the Bible so any cults that don't accept the Bible or interpret away the passage about marriage are not included. It's all about those who believe what I believe based on the Bible, and that is that God has defined marriage and it's only for male with female, period. And if the secular government defines it some other way then I and all those who believe as I do will disobey it in order to obey God. That's it. Do as you please, I never said you should do anything different.Ha ha! I see Percy has been having himself a good old time censoring every single word I write. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You have to use "Peek." It may or may not be humorous. I can take it either way. Obviously he took offense at some of my recent comments about how he's acting like a totalitarian dictator.

The honest thing for him to do is clearly define my offense and suspend me for it. Censorship is of course completely in keeping with the totalitarian leftist lean of EvC, though, so perhaps that's what he prefers to express.

Oooooooh, it's just an INSULT to say EvC members are mostly ideologically leftist? THAT's what I have to stop saying? But it is. Hyro just left the forum because he was told he couldn't say that either. And he and I don't agree on a lot these days so I thought it was interesting we share that view of EvC. Or do you just want me to avoid the implications of that fact, that the ideology tends toward totalitarianism? It is quite clear that you all hate Trump and many of you like one or another of the candidates among the Democrats, who are about as extremely leftist as you can get, WAY into socialism of the Marxist kind, which I believe would bring the country down in less than a generation if any of them get into power. But I'm not allowed to say that? really, truly, I just need to know exactly what my offense is, I'm really not sure.Of course it's not that I'm called "alt-reich" and "alt-right" and "crazy" and a "hater" and "racist" and "homophobe" ALL OF WHICH ARE STRICTLY LEFTIST/MARXIST political correctness and nobody here seems to have a problem with most of that. All that is the very ideological slant at EvC that I'm characterizing as Leftist and totalitarian. So am I not allowed to say that? It's exactly what the Prager article is all about. Perhaps all this should be on that thread. Is that what I'm supposed to repent of?True it's Percy's site and he can do whatever he wants. I just need to know what I should do, but to decide that I need to get a better sense of what my offense is. Perhaps my only option will be to leave.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The words Percy has censored are perfectly good English words, and many of them happen to be necessary to expressing my particular political point of view. I could repent of specifically insulting namecalling words, and I will if any are included in his list, but they all look like ordinary English words to me that just happen to express my political point of view. And I do think his censorship policy expresses exactly what I'm describing by those words, which is what I started saying to him recently. Now if he wants me to take THAT back I can, but then I still don't think there is any cause for the censorship he'd already been doing. In other words I don't see what I'm supposed to repent OF or apologize FOR. The last time we went through this it was clear to me what he was objecting to and I did change and he did stop censoring me. This time around I have no idea, it seems colmpletely senseless.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

It is considered to be a law, called a "Creation Ordinance" and we are to obey the Creation Ordinances as laws. There is only one other I know of -- "be fruitful and multiply" -- but there may be more: THANK YOU PERCY FOR EASING UP ON THE CENSORSHIP.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No, I believe it is not a free country any more when a Christian cannot obey God without being punished for it, as the businesses who refused to cater a gay wedding were punished.. It's just the beginning of worse to come as I and many others see it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No, the Christians who were punished for obeying God are the true Biblical Christians, no cult, and each of those business owners understood the Bible in the same way independently of one another, because it is standard Biblical teaching: A man shall leave his father and mother and cleave unto his wife. There has never been any doubt in mainline Christianityh as to what that means, it is indeed God's law, called a Creation Ordinance, and it does not include homosexual partners. So we will be punished for taking this stand in a country that has validated gay marriage.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You may not dictate what Christians believe. It is clear to us that a gay wedding violates the Creation Ordinance of marriage between a man and a woman and that if we participate in a gay wedding we are violating that law. All the businesses put in the position of being asked to cater to a gay wedding understood that it violates God's law and had to obey that law instead of the secular law.But this is all I want to say about this. It's off topic of course as the last few pages have all been off topic, and there is nothing more to say about it anyway.

I suspect it is simply how men of superior spirituality understand the Bible.

The understanding of a child IS superior spirituality.