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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1694 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The state's definition of marriage is irrelevant when there is a definition given by God, and it's God's Christians are obliged to honor: marriage is beteween one man and one woman, period.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17909 Joined: Member Rating: 7.2 |
quote: You don’t lie? That’s a contender for the biggest lie on this forum. If I recall correctly it was the assertion that I wouldn’t ,eat you have your beliefs. Which was completely untrue. And no, I haven’t been unbelievably nasty to you. You’re the nastiest regular poster on this site.
quote: So there you are demanding that the state discriminate against gays based purely on your religious belief. Which has no place in US law.Again, it is purely a matter of secular law. quote: Well let me point out that he’s been putting his own interests ahead of America’s in the Ukraine, and likely in other areas (like the tax. cuts). The wall is a silly waste of money - if it was cost-effective it would have been done earlier.
quote: He’s done a number of wrong things. Most of them weren’t serious enough to get past his supporters in the Senate.
quote: Because making military aid dependent on personal favours isn’t wrong ? Even when it is important for American interests? There’s a reason why that transcript was misclassifued. And Mueller did find evidence of collusion and obstruction of justice.
quote: Why would America be dead if a rogue President is impeached? That’s why impeachment is in the Cinstitution. And which of Trump’s policies - that you care about - would stop if Pence replaced Trump? I can’t imagine Pence doing less about abortion. .
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: The state's definition of marriage is ********** when there is a definition given by God, and it's God's Christians are obliged to honor: marriage is beteween one man and one woman, period. Sorry Faith but reality once again simply says you are wrong. It's fine for the God you made up to determine the rules for your cult but you do not get to redefine marriage for anyone else. Reality Faith. Marriage is a State Licensed legal contract. NEITHER YOU OR THE GOD YOU CREATED GET TO REDEFINE THIS.
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ringo Member (Idle past 662 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That's a very modern romantic concept. Throughout most of human history, including Biblical history, marriage was an agreement between two men - a father paying another man to take his daughter off his hands. ... marriage is beteween one man and one woman, period."If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1694 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's no longer a free country so I'm not allowed to obey God over the state, which means I'll obey God if I'm put in the position to choose, and take my punishment.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1694 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Gen 2:24
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
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ringo Member (Idle past 662 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Jacob bought his wife. In fact, Laban pulled the old bait-and-switch and Jacob had to buy two wives. He also cleaved unto two servant girls.
"If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1694 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I didn't say they OBEYED the law, I merely stated the law.
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: It's no longer a free country so I'm not allowed to obey God over the state, which means I'll obey God if I'm put in the position to choose, and take my punishment. Of course this is still a free country but while you are free to make up any God you want that does not mean you are free to break the laws of the State.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17909 Joined: Member Rating: 7.2 |
quote: Just like the segregationists. But you’re fine with that. Why should you be treated any differently from them ?
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ringo Member (Idle past 662 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
It's not a law. The Commandments mention no such law. I didn't say they OBEYED the law, I merely stated the law."If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 7.0
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Of course it's still a free country. You are free to obey your god to your hearts content. No one is going to deny you that right.
But everyone else is also free to obey their own gods or lack thereof without any interference from you.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Recognize there is no such law except for you christians. Your laws do not apply to the rest of us. You can no longer dictate to the rest of non-christian society. Hell, you folk can't even dictate to your own anymore. 10,000 cults and everyone is different. Just like all the rest of the christian cults yours is a minority with no more say on the greater church than I.
Obey what you want how you want but don't expect the rest of us to follow. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes: Recognize there is no such law except for you christians. Not all Christians, just some of the CCoI cult Christians.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1694 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That was quite a rant.l To no good purpose that I can see since I said absolutely nothing that applies to anyone but myself and others who belive what I believe. And what I believe is based on the Bible so any cults that don't accept the Bible or interpret away the passage about marriage are not included. It's all about those who believe what I believe based on the Bible, and that is that God has defined marriage and it's only for male with female, period. And if the secular government defines it some other way then I and all those who believe as I do will disobey it in order to obey God. That's it. Do as you please, I never said you should do anything different.
Ha ha! I see Percy has been having himself a good old time censoring every single word I write. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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