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Author Topic:   Common origin of life as proof of evolution
Taq
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Message 17 of 27 (865444)
10-25-2019 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by AlexCaledin
10-23-2019 3:51 AM


AlexCaledin writes:
So, from the Theistic viewpoint, evolution has never actually happened but was pre-calculated in God's great computer, in the Days of Creation.
That poses some serious theological problems. For instance, this means it was God's plan for young children to get mutations that cause lethal cancers, such as leukemia. It is God's plan that bacteria evolve antibiotic resistance and cause painful and lethal infections that we can't stop.

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Message 23 of 27 (865457)
10-25-2019 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Phat
10-25-2019 12:24 PM


Re: My 2 cents
Thugpreacha writes:
There is a difference between causing something to happen and allowing nature to run its course.
That is yet another level of morality. I am standing on a sidewalk, and I see two young children playing in their front yard. They throw a ball and it rolls onto the street next to me. They begin running right at me and towards the ball sitting on the street, and at the same time I see a car barreling down the street right at the ball. The car will have no time to stop if the kids run out into the road. What do I do? Do I stop the children from running onto the road just by reaching out and grabbing them, or do I let "nature run its course"? What is the moral thing to do? Do I do nothing and let them get hit by a car because humans need to experience some bumps and bruises?

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Message 27 of 27 (865651)
10-28-2019 6:37 PM
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10-25-2019 4:06 PM


Re: My 2 cents
Thugpreacha writes:
Hell was never created for people. Humans only end up in Hell by refusing to accept God through Christ.
It could be that humans who refuse to accept abiogenesis and evolution are also thrown in Hell. Maybe you should accept these ideas just in case, right?
Pascal's Wager isn't that great of an argument.
There would be no good reason not to accept God...unless in so doing you lose your precious freethought independence.
Was Thomas' freewill taken away when Jesus let him touch the wounds on his hands and side? If not, I don't see the harm in asking for the same type of evidence.
I am told that the God of my imagination is fantasy and that the reality we all share is the only reality there is.
For all I know, what you claim may be true. However, there's no evidence that it is. I need evidence in order to be convinced.
I have to go to a cardiac specialist on Monday. My EKG reading was abnormal and has an additional tick and a jump in it.
Best wishes, and I hope things turn out well.

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