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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
But remember, Pence is a far bigger threat to democracy than Trump. I'm not so sure anymore. Pence wants an evangelical christian theocratic America. Trump wants to destroy America. Recent events with Turkey and Syria show this. And now there are reports of a horrific video
quote: We can probably expect more of this as part of his campaign both against impeachment and for re-election. We can also expect some of his base supporters to act out. I choose to not link the video. Yikes.by our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5946 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
Pence wants an evangelical christian theocratic America. Trump wants to destroy America. I don't think that Trump wants to destroy America. He just doesn't care about America. So if America gets in the way of him getting more money or puffing up his ego or kissing up to his friends like Putin, it's America's own fault for being in the wrong place. He just doesn't care. Admittedly, that is the absolutely best case scenario. If destroying America would get him more money, then he would not hesitate. Nor if it would offer him revenge against anyone who had ever criticized him or tried to hold him responsible for his actions.
And now there are reports of a horrific video No news service that I know of is showing it, but I did see the first few seconds from which I recognized the source movie: Kingsman (2014). The scene is where a mind-control tech is first used to drive a mob (a church congregation in this case) into a murderous frenzy. Trump's face is crudely superimposed over Colin Firth's head. Looks like something a teenager or adolescent would have patched together. The making of the video is not so much the question, but rather the motivation of this grossly misnamed "American Priority" group in showing it at their conference. Edited by dwise1, : "best case scenario" -- finally remembered what the term is
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Trump definitely is destroying our environment and social safety net. I don't kn if he cares. But pretty much all of his Cabinet and immediate underlings are implacably opposed to the mission of their organizations.
And of course robbing the poor and giving to the rich.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Looks like something a teenager or adolescent would have patched together. The making of the video is not so much the question, but rather the motivation of this grossly misnamed "American Priority" group in showing it at their conference. Apparently this is what passes for humor for some conservative people.
Admittedly, that is the absolutely best scenario. If destroying America would get him more money, then he would not hesitate. Nor if it would offer him revenge against anyone who had ever criticized him or tried to hold him responsible for his actions. And he want's to remake America so he can rule for another 12 years (or longer). He said so in Florida. All (any) of that takes destroying America to accomplish. I no longer give him any benefit of doubt. He sold state secrets to Saudi Arabia right after they murdered khashoggi so they could work on a nuclear bomb. Now he's sending US troops there to do Saudi dirty work. He's turning Syria over the the Russians. He's chipping away at all environmental regulations. He's taking money from the treasury to give to people who don't need it while taking it and services away from those that do. He is a traitor. It certainly is Putin's goal. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : .by our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5946 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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Well, I did say I was presenting the absolute best-case scenario. Reality is very rarely as rosy.
Amazingly coincidental how just about everything that Trump does ends up working in Putin's favor. Please refer to Nance's Law below.Honor, Courage, Commitment (US Navy) A Christian once asked what I as an atheist believed in. My spontaneous and totally honest answer was sounded corny, but it was true: "Truth, Justice, and the American Way." That's still my answer today. GOP Values: Hypocrisy, Corruption, Greed, Lying, Cheating, Voter Suppression, Election Fraud, Conspiring with the Enemy " ... how hard can that be, to say that Nazis are bad?!"(Barack Obama) "How are we still fighting Nazis today?"(Daisy Johnson, S5E15) "Nance's Law: Coincidence takes a lot of planning."(Malcolm Nance) It is a well-known fact that reality has a definite liberal bias.(Steven Colbert on NPR)
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1524 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
I for one think Trump is too stupid to know wtf he is doing any given time.
Instead of Nance's law I feel Hanlon's razor to be more appropriate."You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5946 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
I for one think Trump is too stupid to know wtf he is doing any given time. I agree. Trump is indeed too stupid come up with these corrupt schemes by himself, let alone implement them. Instead, he serves mainly as a tool through whom others are able to implement their corrupt schemes. Not as an unwitting dupe, but rather as an enthusiastic co-conspirator because of the pay.
Instead of Nance's law I feel Hanlon's razor to be more appropriate. quote: Again, having good intentions but ending up causing harm through your own stiupidity does not describe what Trump is doing. His intentions are to enrich himself and gratify himself by any means necessary. He's just too shtupid to carry it off himself, so others enable him in order to do their own profiteering. Nance's Law does still apply. We are finding out more and more how many months of planning had gone into the Trump/Giuliani "shadow diplomacy" campaign to extort Ukraine. And everything Trump does "just happens to" benefit Putin and his plans -- even Trump diverting DoD funding for his wall had the side-effect of stopping NATO base and facility upgrades intended to deter Russian expansionism (see European Deterrence Initiative (EDI)). Now those "coincidences" have taken a lot of planning. Remember, Trump is not the only bad actor here. He's just the impossible-to-ignore boil on our collective ass.
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Jon
JonF writes: I see you consider yourself an expert on batteries Expert= drip under pressure. No. But I am familiar with heavy equipment that requires a lot of fuel to be able to move and do work. Some I have run burned 300 gallons of diesel per day.
JonF writes: BTW pretty soon there won't be any coal plants to generate electricity. Sure there will be. China, and Japan is building them all the time. God Bless"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi dwise
dwise1 writes: Ask a Public Affairs Specialist from the Social Security Administration. What difference is there between an IOU and a bond anyway? Neither are backed by anything other than the good faith and credit of the issuer. Since we have close to 300 trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities, we are not a good credit risk. God Bless"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Jon
JonF writes: Yep. And so were we. Actually we agreed to the buffer zone. God Bless
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi dwise
dwise1 writes: We have Trump's confession in the form of that "transcript" of that "perfect" phone call. He admitted that he did it. Quote word for word where Trump did what you said.
quote: Give paper, page and paragraph where Trump openly solicited a foreign government to interfere with our elections. God Bless "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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vimesey Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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Give paper, page and paragraph where Trump openly solicited a foreign government to interfere with our elections. Give paper, page and paragraph where Don Corleone openly required Jack Woltz to give Johnny Fontane a part in a movie.Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Actually we agreed to the buffer zone.
Over the frantic objections of everyone in the Government or not who had a clue. Sure is working out great, amirite?
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Quote word for word where Trump did what you said.... Give paper, page and paragraph where Trump openly solicited a foreign government to interfere with our elections.
I take it you've never seen a gangster movie or read a book about gangsters.
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