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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It is insane to apply our court system and laws meant for citizens to foreigners. We ought to be able to judge which foreigners deserve our consideration and which don't without a court procedure.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What were the procedures at Ellis Island? I don't think they had to let anyone in if they didn't meet certain basic requirements, without any other legal procedure than whatever the officials there determined.
You ought to be able to tell from the country of origin and the reason given for needing asylum whether it is legitimate or not without any kind of court procedure. Just put people in place to make such determinations based on the available information, a single person trained for the job or two or three if necessary. A brief hearing should be enough in most cases to determine if a person has a legitimate claim of any sort at all to be in the country. They can move up to other officials if there is any doubt, but even the lowest echelon of officials should be able to make basic decisions. We do not owe foreigners more than that, at least those who have come here without any kind of authorization, petition or application but just show up at the border. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm not into playing the percentages game. I know there have been hundreds, even thousands, of crimes, including rape and murder, committed by illegals against American citizens. Four murders were committed here in Northern Nevada by an illegal a year or so ago. There should not even be ONE such situation if we had a rational border policy.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That is a stupid insane law that gives rights of citizens to anyone who just flings himself onto US soil. What extreme idiocy. No wonder the nation is coming unglued. THAT's a huge reason we need a wall, gigantic impenetrable walls all along the border. Thanks to the anti-American hateful Left.
And change those idiotic laws that force us to give citizenship rights where they have not been earned, and that includes the Anchor Baby idiocy. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh word games. Such fun. I was of course talking about those who are not born citizens as I am. If you aren't a born citizen you have to earn it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Of course you'll assume I'm lying, you don't know how to do anything civil.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You are the one who doesn't know what America is all about and I shouldn't even have to say it, you should know it, so what kind of brainwashing have you undergone that makes you not know it I wonder. I don't wonder a whole lot of course because I'm pretty well aware of what sort of brainwashing the Left has been executing since the sixties or so.
As I went on to say, do it the way Ellis Island did it or was their method unAmerican according to your anti-American Leftist revisionist dogma? I don't know how they did it, I'm merely assuming they had the training and the authority to decide whether immigrants stayed or not, no court case required. And the immigrants had the responsibility to be able to present their qualifications for entry. They were not ILLEGAL, they had to have some kind of legitimate reason to be here. My own suggestion was to have people trained to make such determinations. Really I think just having a long counter with dozens of employees trained in the relevant material should take care of it, like the DMV or the Post Office or any bureaucracy. Go to the window, answer some questions, get photgraphed, get a document classifying your situation, get on the deport bus or sit down to wait for the next step in the process. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Please do not confuse tourists who have been traveling within a country and run into some legal trouble, with people who have not yet qualified even to BE in the country, which is the legal issue itself.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No, I think granting citizenship to Anchor Babies is an idiotic law.
AbE: I agree with Phat about chain migration. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes I know about that law and it's crazy. Most people at Ellis Island had legitimate authority to be there of one sort or another, but at our southern border we are talking about gate crashers mostly. Even those seeking asylum don't do it right, they wait until they get here to make that claim. Maybe we need a zone where they are processed that isn't within the jurisdiction of the country. We can't take in six billion people you know. Or maybe you don't know it. And we aren't the United Nations so why should our laws apply to foreigners who are not qualified to be citizens?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Want to put in a plug for Michelle Malkin's new book that just came out last week, Open Borders Inc., Who is Funding America's Destruction. All I know about it I heard on a weekend conservative talk show, so I have no evidence for anything she claims in it. I haven't read it and may not read it. I post it in case anyone wants to hear about how there are anti-American forces funding the destruction of America by interfering with all attempts to control who comes across our borders. Soros is one name, some churches are also named. She gets into statistics about crimes committed by illegals among other things.
Here's the blurb at Amazon:
In the name of compassionbut driven by financial profitglobalist elites, Silicon Valley, and the radical Left are conspiring to undo the rule of law, subvert our homeland security, shut down free speech, and make gobs of money off the backs of illegal aliens, refugees, and low-wage guest workers. Politicians want cheap votes or cheap labor. Church leaders want pew-fillers and collection plate donors. Social justice militants, working with corporate America, want to silence free speech they deem hateful, while raking in tens of millions of dollars promoting mass, uncontrolled immigration both legal and illegal. Malkin names namesfrom Pope Francis to George Clooney, from George Soros to the Koch brothers, from Jack Dorsey to Tim Cook and Mark Zuckerberg. Enlightening as it is infuriating, Open Borders Inc. reveals the powerful forces working to erase America. I'm not big on explanations of money motivation, I'm more persuaded by ideological/power reasons for evil activities, but I'm sure she's done her research. Cheers. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'd just say that it's all too easy to confuse sinning humanity with an evil ideology. We need to hate the evil ideology with all the strength we can muster, and all the understanding we can acquire about it. We can have compassion for sinning humanity but not for an evil ideology that has them in its grip and will destroy everything people need to live. Pray for them, pray that God will tear down the ideology.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I think that a lot of us born in western democracies such as Canada or the Excited States found ourselves born at third base and then think we got there by hitting a triple. "Excited States," that's cute. We no doubt need a lot more humility and gratitude for the great blessing of having been born into such privileged nations, but we certainly don't need the guilt so many want to lay on us. We need to work to preserve the blessing or it will be taken from us and nobody will benefit from it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I mean the evil ideology that wants to destroy the most generous giving nation that ever existed, which is what the Left's policies are going to do if we don't stop them.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You did a nice job there of describing the Leftist policies which of course I do NOT support.
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