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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
If she can open a browser, try this:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 it's just the malwarebytes installer renamed.
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Percy Member Posts: 22506 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Faith writes: Actually, collapse is a well-known process in geology and that is why we can say that it is of no consequence in this particular discussion. A day or two ago I looked up collapse as a term within geology. There were two different types, and neither sounded like what Faith was talking about. Thanks for the other information. I plan to get back to your Message 681, but it was information-dense and it raised a great many questions. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22506 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
edge writes: This basement is shown as an intrusive. I believe that is what Faith is calling granite. However, it's always hard to tell what Faith is thinking. I was just hoping Faith could tell me where on the diagram she's seeing granite. I can't tell if she's still calling Snowdon solid granite, or is just referring to the basement rocks, or something else. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Grammar.
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Percy Member Posts: 22506 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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jar writes: The evidence that would support Faith's position would be finding everything that lived at the same time jumbled up together unless she can provide the model, mechanism, process, procedure or method that allowed either of the Biblical Floods to sort the life forms in the order we find them in reality. Yes. There's some kind of upside down-ness in her thinking that leads her to believe that huge chaotic things create order while slow gradual processes create disorder. --Percy
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If time periods were marked by sedimentary layers we should see one forming today exactly over the geologial columns wherever they are. We don't. We see columns that were disturbed after they were laid down, broken up, much of it washed away (eroded slowly according to the standard theory). That's clearly what we see in the Grand Canyon/Grand Staircase area, and it's clearly what we see in the UK diagram we've been discussing. ALL the strata are in place, all laid down one after another, AFTER which something disturbed them, cut canyons into them, caused them to collapse from original vertically stacked horizontal layers down to pieces of strata arranged no longer vertically but horizontally across the island. All this supports the Flood explanation.
Neat sedimentary rocks every few millions of years all neatly stacked one upon another despite the intervening millions of years, just does not fit reality as we know it. Animals die on the surface, including the surface of the sea bottom, where predators gobble them up and they have zerio chance of being buried let alone fossilized. The surface of the earth is a jumble of sediments, not neatly sorted sediments except in special places that aren't even part of the geological column, and the sea floor is also a jumble of stuff that died and landed on it. Yes a jumble. Everyday nature creates a jumble of stuff on our earth, it has to be a special event that would create the geological column.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I originally thought the mountain was solid granite from some former discussion or other, but then you all said that it isn't all granite so I accepted that, but I still think it was originally basement rock on which the strata were laid down as shown in Percy's schematic drawing.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Your own drawing illustrates what I meant by "collapse:" you show the strata all in place horizontally and then tilted so that the vertical part becomes horizontal as we see the short pieces of strata laid out alonjg the island. They were ioriginally vertical, and with the rest of the strata now beneath the island it looks like it all "collapsed" to me. The tilted part in your drawing kept falling until it was under the sea level line with just the broken-off ends on the surface, now horizontal when originally they were vertical. It all tilted into its current position. If you want a word other than "collapse" I'm not sure what the best choice would be.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Thanks for all the information. I tried the second one JonF mentioned on this public computer and many hours later it is still "scanning" so I don't know what to make of that. But I'm going to try the alternative link to Malwarebytes next, and on my own computer later too.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Going to have to come back to this later.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
If time periods were marked by sedimentary layers we should see one forming today exactly over the geologial columns wherever they are. We don't.
We do. On the ocean floor. In river deltas. The Earth is covered by separate and neatly sorted layers, in some places distorted and broken by various obvious means. You obviously are speaking of a planet that exists only in your head.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It can take hours depending on how much is stored on the computer. If it's scanning it's working, but filenames should be appearing on the screen.
When it finishes have it quarantine everything it finds.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well I just tried three times to load your alternative link to malwarebytes and it wouldn't load. It says "No preview available" and gives a "download" button but the download doesn't download. This is the public computer. I turned off the endless scanning of the other link you gave.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Now I'm sorry I cloead it in order to try the alternative malwarebytes link. Maybe I can get it back. Yes there is a long list of something, viruses I assumed, that the program is running through. I'll try again.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It can take hours depending on how much is stored on the computer. If it's scanning it's working, but filenames should be appearing on the screen.
When it finishes have it quarantine everything it finds.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It lists every file that it's looking at and the number of issues it's found. One virus can be several issues.
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