The Case For A Creator

Of course not. What religion is?

You're crazy. It's a paranoid delusion, like Faith seeing leftists behind every tree.

You can't include all of those as eyewitnesses. They may have seen but they didn't testify. The only testimony we have is from the gospel writers themselves (who weren't necessarily eyewitnesses themselves).

No, you can not include characters in the story as eyewitnesses to the story. That should be obvious. A storyteller saying they were eyewitnesses doesn't make them eyewitesses.And even if the event did really happen, you would not get thousands of eyewitnesses telling the same story. You'd get so many different versions that it would be impossible to tell what actually happened.

And what I'm trying to get across is that those "events" are not real events at all. The effect on the reader does not determine the reality of the events. People can be affected by fictional events as readily as by real events. Why do you keep lying about that? I have told you many times that I respect the book more than you do. I'm the one who quotes it to you and you're the one who rejects it. We're not talking about contradictions or inconsistencies here. We're talking about you flat-out contradicting what the Bible says.

Chaplain: Let us praise God. O Lord...Congregation: O Lord...Chaplain: ...Ooh, You are so big...Congregation: ...Ooh, You are so big...Chaplain: ...So absolutely huge.Congregation: ...So absolutely huge.Chaplain: Gosh, we're all really impressed down here, I can tell You.Congregation: Gosh, we're all really impressed down here, I can tell You.Chaplain: Forgive us, O Lord, for this, our dreadful toadying, and...Congregation: And barefaced flattery.Chaplain: But You are so strong and, well, just so super.Congregation: Fantastic.Humphrey: Amen.Congregation: Amen.-- Monty Python's The meaning of Life

And I answered: You don't want that to be the standard because your god doesn't meet the standard.If your god existed, he should be easy to prove: Pray for the sick and they're healed - every time.

Do the voices in your head heart tell you their name is Jesus? Or are you just associating those spooky feelings with the stories of Jesus that you have heard?If somebody had never heard of Jesus suddenly found Jesus "alive in their heart", would they know about the stories of Jesus at all?

It's the opposite of fantasy. It's the standard we use for everything else. You wouldn't keep going to a doctor who consistently failed to make you feel better. Why do you apply a lower standard to your god?

I'm going by your definition as much as possible but you have a very slippery definition. You're quite happy to use the Bible when it suits you but not when it puts any responsibility on you. But you're making up that definition. Stop it, stop it, stop it. If you want to discuss the topic constructively and honestly, you have to assume that we all have the same desire to find God as you do. Bullshit. Why not?

How do you know it's Jehovah and not Zeus or Thor? Answer this question.