A test for claimed knowledge of how macroevolution occurs

So you maybe think the genome knew back in 1811 that this mutation was going to be needed in 40 years? And that by 1895 it would cover 95+% of the population?I suppose that is the kind of majik religionists believe.

The variant wouldn't have been there if the mutation had not happened. No black moths were seen in the 1811 observations or before. By mid-1800s the population was riddled with them and by the end of the century it was the norm in the population.I suspect PaulK is correct. Such melanin mutations are not rare and could have come and gone several times in a large population over many centuries. So you are correct. This one crept up just in time (+-40 years)Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

Ahh, so it was there all the time. How clever of the DNA to know that and make the switch just in time.

Quadrupole Domesticated Dinosauria. The name. The avatar. The whole meme. Very nice.Welcome to EvC, 4petdinos. Pull up a chair.

What kind of evidence might you be looking for? How can this intricate ocean of Earth's DNA chemistry *not* change. So changes happened, yes?

What is the difference between structure of a genome and mutations that change what's IN the genome? What structure? Absolutely. What else would they be if not changes from a far earlier genome? Welcome to Earth, Human.

No one is arguing against the fact that the DNA space is as near infinite. That is not the issue.What is the issue is what is the DNA space *available* under what circumstances.We don’t really care how many combinations there theoretically could be, we are only interested in the combinations that actually are.

You were saying the genome is way big and can more then handle the number of alleles.I was saying the genome *is* big but it is finite and that not every allele possible could be in there. So the ones that were not there to begin with had to get into this limited genome somehow.No one is arguing against cats make cats and chimps make chimps.We’re arguing that genomes change over time. Like everything else in this universe.

So your definition of change is more moving things around than creating something new? And yet you acknowledge that mutations, like SNPs, do happen. A single SNP would make a change. Make something new. Yes?

Thus the religion, Gloomy Jane.

When a discussion of this type gets to the level of religion it really is over.The only thing left then is ridicule and I don't feel like making fun of my favorite demented crazy lady right now. Maybe later.

Yeah, ya can.The whole point of this part of your discussions with PaulK is that those random mutations as part of the ToE is the only logical and evidenced explanation there is.You are unable to provide an alternative explanation of how separate "kind" creation could possibly manifest itself as the patterns of common ancestry we see in the world.Or are you going to claim common ancestry is caused by mutant genes that don't do anything?

Then what is it in creation theory that could cause the appearance of such deep common ancestry?

Hey RAZD,I saw your pretty pictures but I don't recognize any of them. What kind of birds are these?

Can’t you believe in majik from the old girl’s heart
How the majik can tell you anything that you want
Cuz it’s majik and the strata is bolder
Got all laid down at once with the fossils in orderYou know the fluddy is majik that’ll save your soul
We all singin' and dancin' to god’s own rock and roll
Yes, it’s majik (yah ya know it's majik)
Gotta believe in majik (yah ya know it's majik)