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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
You are not talking about the gospels in which there is no bloodshed or any such thing
This statement is obviously false.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
Whatever. No one wants you dead. No one ever thinks of you except when you vomit stupid shit on this forum. As soon as they close the page the forget about you.
You are just an ignorant troll. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.0
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You are just an ignorant *****
Cool. I got edited.Have to admit it. I deserve it. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.6 |
Faith writes: ...there is no convincing evidence that you are not deluded.
I believe the scientific view is that you can't make a judgment based on an absence of evidence. Of course we can. The absence of evidence is a fact. You have never presented convincing evidence for any of your fantasies.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
jar writes:
Thanks ... for repeating yourself. Do you believe that Jesus is the Third Person of the Trinity, that he died on the cross for our sins and that he was bodily resurrected to life three days later? I am a Christian and know that every God or god described in or by any religion is a creation of the human mind. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangle writes:
I won't be holding my breath ... for another pseudo-scientific theory that can't be tested.
We'll let you know if/when we've worked it out
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jar Member (Idle past 90 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
LOL
Did I or did I not say that I am a Christian? What does any of your attempted conman tactics have to do with wheher or not it is a fact that all God(s) and god(s) ever described are creations of the human mind?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.6 |
If you really think I'm defending such an evll doctrine, you should be advocating my death. No. Wishing death on people is a christian and/or a republican and/or a racist thing.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1695 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That is of course a slanderous lye but then that's what your side of the political divide is particularly good at.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
Not only do I not believe this, but the whole concept is just a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Define what any of this actual means first.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18636 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
Pressie writes: Agreed! You really should read more than one book. Your illiteracy is not a good ad for the religion you believe in. It just seems as if I read the Bible. I really dont study it all that often, though I do believe that when I received the Holy Spirit the very Word went into me. Sounds crazy, I know. But I am also reading the following books at the moment:
13 Hours: The Inside Account of What Really Happened In BenghaziHosoi: My Life as a Skateboarder Junkie Inmate Pastor True Notebooks: A Writer's Year at Juvenile Hall Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18636 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
Oh, Pressie! Its a belief. Nowhere will we ever find evidence that is/was factual. It does not matter if it is/ factual. What matters is if you believe it or not. If everyone believed that Star Wars described an approximation of the likely populations of the near universe interacting with one another, fighting, making peace, making babies or droids or the kids in that cantina scene...
Original Cantina Scene - A New Hope Point being that if the collective imagination of humanity leans toward a consensus, it could well be that we have actualized a possibility through our collective imagination. Feel Me?Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18636 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
Faith writes: They will argue that they can since determination to them is based on the likelihood (or chance) that they are right. Of course, theories are always and forever being revised. Our secular humanist friends here at EvC collectively feel more comfortable with scientific and supportable theories vs. what they would consider empty beliefs. But then they have not yet met Jesus.
I believe the scientific view is that you can't make a judgment based on an absence of evidence. Tanypteryx writes: To me, the next question is this: Can something exist that is not evident? What is the difference between romance, cultural mythos, and legends? The absence of evidence is a fact. You have never presented convincing evidence for any of your fantasies.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18636 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
Dredge, addressing jar writes: Do you believe that Jesus is the Third Person of the Trinity, that he died on the cross for our sins and that he was bodily resurrected to life three days later? Theodoric writes: Not only do I not believe this, but the whole concept is just a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Define what any of this actually means first. God is the Creator of all seen and unseen. As jar astutely points out, GOD, if GOD exists, is likely, unlike anything we humans could imagine. Whether or not God loves us is discussed in scripture. Progressive revelation has the "God Character" evolving throughout the Bible. jar argues that the authors, editors, and redactors were likely discussing different Gods, but jar presupposes that God(Not GOD--Note) is a creation of the human mind. Thus concludes that the Bible has many different Gods as described. I would argue that it is all the same God being described differently by humans of different eras and cultures and that the Bible thus has progressive revelation as to the character of God...lastly described through the character of the man Christ Jesus. Some argue that Jesus as an actual character never existed, but others disagree with this assessment and claim that the jury is still out. The Holy Spirit, unique in that it(He) remains on the earth as evidence of Gods presence. It's not so much a matter of evidence being needed. Its the bigger question of how would you respond to such a God if such a God were in fact real? Which also hints at why blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is such a big deal. But of course, I speak from a believers perspective. Comments?Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Pressie Member (Idle past 226 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
So, if your favourite Spooks just are and were not created, what is their supposed purpose? Huh? Just there for no purpose?
Aren't they supposed to they feel constantly angry or depressed (yeah, supposedly killed everything in a magic fluddy); do they have a hard time maintaining relationships (yeah, supposedly constantly send most people to hell for not believing); and do they perform poorly in their academics as a result (yeah, flunked logic 101)?
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