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JonF Member (Idle past 492 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
So this thread is pointless.
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JonF Member (Idle past 492 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
What you have for the reptile jaw-mammalian inner-ear is a rehashed version of the nineteenth-century superstition of spontaneous generation
Spontaneous generation and the ToE are polar opposites. One could not "rework" one into the other.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 139 days) Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
JonF writes:
The best scientific explanation for fossil record is genetic engineering performed by aliens - this amounts to powerful scientific evidence of the existence of advanced aliens.
We have no credible evidence of advanced aliens or interstellar travel.
Since we have scientific evidence for the existence of advanced aliens (ie, the fossil record), it can be assumed that interstellar travel has been achieved. How this was achieved is irrelevant to the validity of my "aliens did it" theory. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 139 days) Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
edge writes:
Precisely when insects appeared in the fossil record is irrelevant - the point is there is no fossil evidence of any evolutionary ancestors of insects.
Dredge writes:
But you know that they appeared in the Cambrian Period, yes? According to Gunter Bechley, there is no evidence whatsoever of evolutionary ancestors of insects. Everyone has an opinion and he is entitled to his. The question is, what can you bring to the table here besides the opinion of others.
1. You criticise me for relying on "the opinions of others", then you supply an opinion from Wiki to back up your own argument! The blatant hypocrisy is hilarious!You could do a little research outside the confines of your little creationist box, however. Evolution of insects - Wikipedia 2. So the opinion of the nobodies at Wiki carries more weight than a world-renown palaeontologist with three insects named after him? More hilarity! Edited by Dredge, : No reason given. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 139 days) Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
JonF writes:
Why are you conflating a "God" theory and an "aliens" theory? There is no comparison - the former is theology and and the latter is science. Gets harder and harder to cram God/aliens into those gaps, amirite? Edited by Dredge, : No reason given. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 736 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Mr. Occam would call that an "unnecessary enity". It is far from scientific.
The best scientific explanation for fossil record is genetic engineering performed by aliens... Dredge writes:
No more than it points to the existence of scientifically advanced unicorns. ... this amounts to powerful scientific evidence of the existence of advanced aliens.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 139 days) Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes: An ad hominem attack is not science.
Well, I already know that you believe a lot of bullshit and your beliefs have no impact on reality.
Neither does the belief that all life on earth shares a common ancestor.
I also note that Bechly never includes his ID beliefs in his scientific papers on dragonfly fossils.
And this is a criticism? So funny! Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 139 days) Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
edge writes:
The Darwinian explanation is very poorly supported by the available fossil evidence, which features huge gaps - gaps that can be best explained by my "aliens did it" theory.
And the incompleteness of the fossil record makes that understandable.What is the problem? Unless, that is, you think that the fossil record is complete . Who said it was steady?
Even with band-aid theories like PE, the fossil record should reveal a relatively steady process of evolution - but it often doesn't.
Your mechanism is unknown and unsupported.
Wrong. The mechanism of genetic engineering is not only known and supported, it is observable, repeatable and understood - unlike the nineteenth-century superstition of Darwinian macroevolution, which has never even been observed.
That's because there's more to it than just the fossils.
Yeah, right . that's why evolutionary theorists like Gerd Muller think the modern synthesis is inadequate and cannot explain the fossil record. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 492 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Wow, that's one very tight example of circular reasoning.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 139 days) Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Taq writes:
That's one possible explanation . but one that can't be tested and confirmed. All things considered the evidence can be That's absolutely false. The observation of lineage specific adaptations and a phylogenetic signal tells us that the mechanism is vertical inheritance and lineage specific mutations.best explained by genetic engineering performed by aliens. Aliens don't explain the phylogenetic signal.
Why not?
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JonF Member (Idle past 492 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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God of the gaps.
Aliens of the gaps. As we learn more the gaps get smaller no matter what you're trying to stuff in them.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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Dredge writes: Tanypteryx writes: An ad hominem attack is not science. Well, I already know that you believe a lot of bullshit Well, you have not presented any science, so I was just describing what you have presented so far.
Dredge writes: Tanypteryx writes:
Neither does the belief that all life on earth shares a common ancestor. and your beliefs have no impact on reality. If you encounter someone who believes that, let them know.
Dredge writes: Tanypteryx writes:
And this is a criticism? So funny! I also note that Bechly never includes his ID beliefs in his scientific papers on dragonfly fossils. It wasn't meant as criticism. I have read his papers, have you? You have an odd sense of humor. Edited by Tanypteryx, : No reason given.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Dredge Member (Idle past 139 days) Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
JonF writes:
That would be a funny thing for an atheist to say - atheism means every living moment, every single thought, deed and emotion is pointless.
So this thread is pointless.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined:
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Yup. Troll.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 139 days) Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Mr. Occan is both right and wrong:
"right" because all explanations for the fossil record are "unnecessary". "wrong" because it is necessary to replace the childishly primitive Darwinian explanation with something more in tune with modernity - such as my "aliens did it" theory, the best scientific explanation for the fossil record. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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