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Phat
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Message 1771 of 5796 (852220)
05-08-2019 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1769 by Theodoric
05-08-2019 2:17 PM


Re: Former Federal Prosecutors on Obstruction
Not to defend "them" anymore than necessary...we all will be judged whether we believe or not. But I might point out that I would rather believe that we humans have a destiny beyond this life than to simply accept that we are worm food and our best efforts should be this tiny sliver of life we have now.
Humans may well be arrogant in their presumption of an ancient mythos being true, but to me it is equally arrogant to factually sit on a dust speck of a planet (the only place we have ever known) and using math and measurable instruments postulate and essentially create a universe and a possible multiverse from our limited pea brains and our limited geographical vantage point. Just saying.
Don't get me wrong, Theodoric. I have always respected you even though we clash now and then. You are refreshingly honest.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

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Taq
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Message 1772 of 5796 (852223)
05-08-2019 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1740 by Faith
05-07-2019 7:35 PM


Re: Racist actions?
Faith writes:
I believe Trump expected blacks to drive out the whites and his property would then be occupied by all blacks so that its value would drop and so would his rents.
Why would black people drive out whites in an upscale apartment building? Have you ever watched "The Jeffersons"?
Trump was never "focusing on brown people" AT ALL. All he ever said was that people illegally crossing the southern border brought a lot of problems with them.
Plenty of illegal immigrants cross the border legally and overstay their visas. Again, Trump focuses on the southern border because that is where the brown people come in.

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Taq
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Message 1773 of 5796 (852224)
05-08-2019 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1756 by Faith
05-08-2019 1:02 PM


Re: Former Federal Prosecutors on Obstruction
Faith writes:
I'd lke to see somebody try to make an issue of obstruction which Mueller clearly tried to provoke with the second part of his report.
If Hillary had been elected president, and she fired Comey because he was looking further into her email scandal, would have called that obstruction of justice?

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Faith 
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Message 1774 of 5796 (852225)
05-08-2019 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 1772 by Taq
05-08-2019 3:41 PM


Re: Racist actions?
The southern border is where we get floods of illegals including drug cartels and human trafficking and worse.

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Faith 
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Message 1775 of 5796 (852226)
05-08-2019 4:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1773 by Taq
05-08-2019 3:45 PM


Re: Former Federal Prosecutors on Obstruction
Comey was replaced, so there couldn't have been any obstruction anyway, and besides now that we know Mueller found no collusion at all what would he have obstructed anyway? There was nothing to obstruct and nothing he did could have obstructed anything.
Firing Comey couldn't obstruct anything, but in Hillary's case we know there was obstruction at a ridiculously major level and any honest investigation would find it, which I hope Barr can accomplish. Firing Comey wouldn't stop that investigation either.

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Faith 
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Message 1776 of 5796 (852228)
05-08-2019 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1772 by Taq
05-08-2019 3:41 PM


Re: Racist actions?
It's the only reason that makes any sense, but perhaps I'm wrong about it.

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Theodoric
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Message 1777 of 5796 (852229)
05-08-2019 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1771 by Phat
05-08-2019 2:45 PM


Re: Former Federal Prosecutors on Obstruction
Humans may well be arrogant in their presumption of an ancient mythos being true, but to me it is equally arrogant to factually sit on a dust speck of a planet (the only place we have ever known) and using math and measurable instruments postulate and essentially create a universe and a possible multiverse from our limited pea brains and our limited geographical vantage point. Just saying
The arrogance is yours thinking we are special. There is no arrogance in using data and facts to try to understand the universe. That position is ludicrous.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Faith 
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Message 1778 of 5796 (852230)
05-08-2019 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 1769 by Theodoric
05-08-2019 2:17 PM


Re: Former Federal Prosecutors on Obstruction
What a disgusting piece of fake news propaganda. There is no way to hstn the return of Christ. Evangelicals recognized that the establishment of the State of Israel fulfilled Biblical prophecy and that was very exciting to see and focused us on the whole range of prophecies about the Middle East and the end times, which some now watch avidly knowing it's all coming true. However, I don't even think Armageddon is on the prophetic calendar until after the Millennium which is a thousand year period occurs after Jesus' second coming. But I don't follow prophecy enough to be sure about the timing. I just know that NOBODY thinks we're "hstning" anything by our concern for Israel and the Jews.
(Some of the words, like "hstn," that get chewed up by the Mad Censor, make no sense at all)._
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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ringo
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Message 1779 of 5796 (852231)
05-08-2019 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1774 by Faith
05-08-2019 3:57 PM


Re: Racist actions?
Faith writes:
The southern border is where we get floods of illegals including drug cartels and human trafficking and worse.
Trump's measures won't stop those.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Faith 
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Message 1780 of 5796 (852232)
05-08-2019 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1779 by ringo
05-08-2019 4:12 PM


Re: Racist actions?
They'll help a lot. They'll free the Border Patrol from chasing after the thousands coming in and trying to house them and document them, to fcus more effectively where they need to fcus.
He is censoring "fcus?" Good grief.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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ringo
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Message 1781 of 5796 (852234)
05-08-2019 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1780 by Faith
05-08-2019 4:16 PM


Re: Racist actions?
Faith writes:
They'll free the Border Patrol from chasing after the thousands coming in and trying to house them and document them, to fcus more effectively where they need to fcus.
How will focusing on the harmless elements free anybody to focus on the more harmful elements? It would make more sense to devote less of their resources to the run-of-the mill, slightly illegal and more to the dangerously illegal.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Theodoric
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Message 1782 of 5796 (852239)
05-08-2019 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1778 by Faith
05-08-2019 4:11 PM


Re: Former Federal Prosecutors on Obstruction
Now I am a news source? Cool.
You should familiarize yourself with your fellow travelers. If you don't agree with them you will also be pushed aside when they come to power.
Evangelicals, Israel, and the End of the World
On the Road to Armageddon
I don't make this stuff up.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

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Taq
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Message 1783 of 5796 (852240)
05-08-2019 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1775 by Faith
05-08-2019 4:01 PM


Re: Former Federal Prosecutors on Obstruction
Faith writes:
Comey was replaced, so there couldn't have been any obstruction anyway, and besides now that we know Mueller found no collusion at all what would he have obstructed anyway? There was nothing to obstruct and nothing he did could have obstructed anything.
You didn't answer the question. Here it is again.
If Hillary had been elected president, and she fired Comey because he was looking further into her email scandal, would you have called that obstruction of justice?
Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

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Taq
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Message 1784 of 5796 (852241)
05-08-2019 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1774 by Faith
05-08-2019 3:57 PM


Re: Racist actions?
Faith writes:
The southern border is where we get floods of illegals including drug cartels and human trafficking and worse.
Ports of entry is where drugs and human trafficking enter the country.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1785 of 5796 (852243)
05-08-2019 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 1757 by Faith
05-08-2019 1:05 PM


Re: This guy claims he is not a racist too
Anyone who says he's a Christian and his beliefs were handed down is not really a CHristian.
You came by yours searching. The vast majority of humanity, however, are handed, acculturated, into theirs.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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