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JonF
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Message 1456 of 5796 (851509)
04-25-2019 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1450 by Faith
04-25-2019 4:00 PM


Re: Movie: Little Woods
So in an imaginary world she could get more government aid. Which you admit she did not receive as you claimed before.

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JonF
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Message 1459 of 5796 (851512)
04-25-2019 4:36 PM


Just to remind us what Faith claimed.
quote:
Hm, and I just remembered a case where a woman in her thirties quit her job to get pregnant because her "clock was running out" and she got welfare and food stamps to help her through it. I'll have to make some phone calls later to see if I've got this right.

  
JonF
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Message 1522 of 5796 (851675)
04-30-2019 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1518 by Faith
04-30-2019 11:44 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
I note you reject Christianity.

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JonF
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Message 1527 of 5796 (851687)
04-30-2019 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1526 by marc9000
04-30-2019 7:14 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Hate's certainly come from Faith. She's explicitly embraced her hate more than once.
Alas, there apparently are millions like her.
Anyone is allowed to hate, no matter how irrational. At least Faith is honest enough to admit she hates so many people because of what they are or she thinks they've done. "He started it" was pathetic in first grade and so much more so for adults.

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JonF
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Message 1540 of 5796 (851718)
05-01-2019 9:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1533 by Faith
05-01-2019 3:07 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Make up your mind. "I hate leftists with a passion" means you hate leftists with a passion.

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JonF
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Message 1572 of 5796 (851786)
05-02-2019 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 1571 by herebedragons
05-02-2019 10:05 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Plus Marc is way out of touch. Trump claims that undocumented immigrants are being almost exclusively released into sanctuary cities, which is of course false (since it's Trump). President Trump’s claim that migrants are being sent to sanctuary cities:
quote:
The Department of Homeland Security has not announced that it is implementing Trump’s plan to deposit migrants in sanctuary cities. A DHS spokesman declined to comment for this fact check and referred us to the White House, which did not respond to our questions. We also sent questions to ICE and did not receive a response....
We asked several of the biggest sanctuary jurisdictions whether the Trump administration had begun to release undocumented immigrants in their turf. “We have not seen any sort of uptick to warrant this claim,” said Matthew McGrath, a spokesman for Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel (D). “But if we did, and as the mayor has indicated, we’d welcome it.” A spokesman for New York Mayor Bill de Blasio (D) told us, “We have seen nothing to indicate such actions from the Trump administration, and we are certainly not turning anyone away.”
Perhaps one sanctuary city on Trump’s mind is Oakland, Calif. The president didn’t mention it at the rally or in the interview, but he has feuded with Mayor Libby Schaaf (D) in the past and criticized her again in an April 13 tweet: “So interesting to see the Mayor of Oakland and other Sanctuary Cities NOT WANT our currently ”detained immigrants’ after release ...”
In fact, Schaaf said the opposite. “My job as a mayor is to welcome people,” Schaaf told NPR in an interview the same day as Trump’s tweet. “I don’t build walls. It’s our job to welcome everyone into our city, ensure their safety, ensure that their families can thrive. And that is my job no matter where those people came from or how they got there.” (There’s no evidence that the Trump administration has begun to release immigrants into Oakland.)
Also, "Trump made that clear when he offered to bus all the illegals he could to sanctuary cities, and then we all watched them cry about that" is just another right-wing fantasy, assuming what they want to happen did happen. Trump threatened sanctuary cities, and they shrugged”here’s why
quote:
The president believes the transfer of asylum-seekers to sanctuary jurisdictions would put such an undue burden on those local governments and populations that the people would rise up against their governments’ embrace of sanctuary status. In reality, however, as Table 1 shows, all families apprehended so far this year total an equivalent of 0.16 percent of the population of those sanctuary jurisdictions. Put differently, if those asylum-seekers were spread across sanctuary jurisdictions according to population, those jurisdictions would receive 16 asylum-seekers per 10,000 residents....
President Trump’s ideas about relocating immigrants depend on a misunderstanding (perhaps deliberate) of the levels of immigration, the composition of those seeking to come to the United States (and particularly those seeking asylum), the impact of relocation on sanctuary jurisdictions, and the legal basis for his ongoing policy-proposal-by-tweet. Many of the mayors and governors who have declared sanctuary status for their jurisdictions, have effectively said “bring it on.” And why shouldn’t they? The president is offering to send them a host of new, productive economic actors.

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JonF
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Message 1576 of 5796 (851790)
05-02-2019 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 1546 by Faith
05-01-2019 1:43 PM


Re: Thanks to marc9000 for his kindness
It's obvious to all that you are not a follower of the teachings of Jesus.

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JonF
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Message 1577 of 5796 (851791)
05-02-2019 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1564 by marc9000
05-01-2019 9:04 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
It's impossible to have "protection of the environment" as described by a self-serving government, without a loss of individual freedom. It's impossible to have "social justice" (redistribution of earnings by a self serving government) without a loss of the individual freedoms of those who earn those confiscated earnings.
It's impossible to have a modern human society without some loss of freedom and distribution of resources.

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JonF
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Message 1584 of 5796 (851799)
05-02-2019 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1580 by Faith
05-02-2019 3:00 PM


Re: Thanks to marc9000 for his kindness
"Yes, we are to love everybody, except for the majority of people whom I hate for one or more reasons. "

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JonF
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Message 1589 of 5796 (851806)
05-02-2019 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1588 by Faith
05-02-2019 3:51 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Almost all those alleged achievements and hopes are illusions. You should listen to others.

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JonF
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Message 1592 of 5796 (851822)
05-02-2019 6:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1590 by Faith
05-02-2019 4:01 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
IOW you can't come up with one significant achievement. (He had nothing to do with the tax bill other than signing it.)

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JonF
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Posts: 6174
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Message 1593 of 5796 (851823)
05-02-2019 6:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1591 by Taq
05-02-2019 4:47 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Crossings have increased since Trump took office, although they're still far short of the peaks in the last 50 or so years.
Trump's attempts haven't had a lot of effect, not even his zero-humanity policy (which right-wingers insist was very successful.) IMHO the recent uptick is partly due to it's-now-or-never thinking. If he does implement charging for asylum requests and 180 day maximum processing time there'll be almost no applications and fewer successes. Never mind the realities, dogma is inviolate.

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JonF
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Message 1597 of 5796 (851844)
05-03-2019 8:39 AM
Reply to: Message 1596 by Tangle
05-03-2019 3:06 AM


Re: Thanks to marc9000 for his kindness
Yeah, but that's all New Testament. Faith is Old Testament only, as demonstrated by her choice of texts and rejection of NT texts.

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JonF
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Posts: 6174
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Message 1618 of 5796 (851876)
05-03-2019 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 1598 by marc9000
05-03-2019 8:40 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
But San Francisco for example, wants as many of them as possible in the country for their votes, but they'd rather others far from them, in border towns, deal with their illiteracy and all their problems
They can't and don't vote in state or Federal elections. If you want to argue otherwise, include evidence.
And let's see the statistics on literacy in their native language, an on "other problems".

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JonF
Member (Idle past 199 days)
Posts: 6174
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Message 1619 of 5796 (851877)
05-03-2019 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 1602 by marc9000
05-03-2019 9:17 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
The main difference is that sanctuary cities are not violating Federal or any law. They are refusing, as is their right and duty, to enforce Federal law for the agencies responsible for the enforcement.
Do you really believe that this administration would not act if they were really violating Feder law?
Exactly what Federal law do you think they are violating?
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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