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Stile Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: |
Dredge writes: I will reiterate: To say, "all life is connected", is to say that all life shares a common ancestor - a belief that has no practical use in applied science. Okay, but I don't see how this correct the silliness of your example. To rephrase my original:
quote: But, please, keep trying. It's very entertaining.
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Stile Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: |
Dredge writes: You keep repeating this claim, but hitherto have failed to explain how the theory of common descent (ie, the theory that all life on earth shares a common ancestor) has provided a practical use in medical science. That's okay, we can continue to go over it again.It shows everyone how empty your arguments are. That you have no substance, and can only regurgitate Points Refuted A Thousand Times: From Message 216: There were two of them in the link you just quoted. One of the big, huge ones, and one of the small, specific ones:
quote: It must be difficult to talk, with all those feet in your mouth. Are there any more of my previous messages you'd like me to post again? Cut and paste is easy.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
So then creationists have no scruples against posing as something that they are not (yet another morality argument against them). Liars for Jesus is my favorite term for them.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
That genealogy goes back only to about 800 BC, which doesn't do much for your theory that humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. 800 BC is in line with the much shorter Biblical time-frame. Now, if you want to see a historical genealogy, look to the complete genealogy of the Japanese Emperor which traces his ancestry directly all the way back to Amaterasu, the Sun Goddess. Every single ancestor in that line, generation after generation, is written down. Therefore, by your own logic, Shinto is the One True Faith, you barbarian heathen. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6076 Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
What the fuck are you dissembling about?
The complete genealogy from the Sun Goddess, Amaterasu, to the modern-day Emperor has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Rather, I offered it as documentation far superior to your biblical invention which completely fails to support your bald assertion that humans have only been around for 6,000 to 10,000 years. Despite your false and deceptive claims to not be a YEC, that belief is pure YEC and has no place in actual progressive creationism. So you are lying about not being a YEC, as you are lying about being a progressive creationist. And you are lying about what others say. Why do you need to lie all the time? Because you are a creationist and all that creationists have to work with are lies and deception. Here is my question from my Message 574. You know, the one that you are so terrified of that you went out of your way to avoid:
DWise1 writes: Dredge writes:
So show us why that would be. Support your nonsense. Since you have now revealed that you are a YEC, I assume that you would use the human population growth claim, so just present it. Homo sapiens have been dated as 200, 000 years old? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!! Deary me ... the delusions and nonsense you evolutionists are forced to come up with! Stop your stupid lying and just answer the fucking question! If you are so terrified of simple direct questions, then there is something very seriously wrong with your position. And it's not just you; every creationist acts the same way. If all you have to offer are lies and deception and you are so terrified of simple direct questions, then you very seriously need to do some self-evaluation. You are just like your puny frightened impotent little "God of the Gaps" who has to hide in the shadows in absolute terror of knowledge and the light. How absolutely pitiful! Edited by dwise1, : Added last paragraph
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
Tanypteryx writes:
I made my living in biology and the first time I ever heard the term "applied biology" was from you right here.Dredge writes:
OK I'm about to investigate!
1. What? You're a professional biologist and you've never heard of "applied biology"?!2. Instead of saying or writing, "practical applications of the observable facts and principles of biology", I simply say "applied biology". Try it - it's 2 words verses 7, or 71 characters verses 15! It seems to have been defined online:
Pure and Applied Biology...inestigating further, I visited this website: PAB. Still puzzled as to how Dredge actually got this term right, I delved a bit into just what research these folks profess... Table Of Contents and it looks as if most of these scholars are Islamic. The Free Dictionary Online redirects the term "applied Biology" to Applied Science.
Applied Science Now its Tanypteryx turn. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1694 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If I were you Phat I'd stop buttering up the evos and defend the creo from the vicious attacks on him. Mete out a suspension or two for their nasty language. They say horrible things about him and you ignore it. He doesn't say horrible things about them.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.5 |
Now its Tanypteryx turn. My turn for what?What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.5
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=DrudgeOh, so you think I should place my trust in evolutionary scientists? That's HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA so funny! What are you, 12?What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Stile Member (Idle past 294 days) Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined:
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Tanypteryx writes: What are you, 12? No need to discuss his IQ.He's trying.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1274 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
It seems to have been defined online: Pure and Applied Biology...inestigating further, I visited this website: PAB. Still puzzled as to how Dredge actually got this term right, I delved a bit into just what research these folks profess... Table Of Contents and it looks as if most of these scholars are Islamic. That's just because it's the journal of a Pakistani university. There is actually a Society of Applied Biologists; which publishes a journal called 'Annals of Applied Biology'. What they mean by 'applied biology' is basically agricultural science. The journal is all about studying crops, their diseases, weeds and agricultural pests.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangle writes:
Of course Adam and Eve were real! It's hard to unpick this mess but it strikes me that you must therefore think that Adam and Eve were real and Noah and his Flood happened. So all modern animals evolved in the last 4,000 years? And all humans came from Noah's family? And all those human fossils and descendants are imaginary? I believe Noah's flood is an historical fact, but I also believe it wasn't global. Did all humanity descended from Noah's family? I think so. No modern animals evolved in last 4000 years - all animals were created, beginning billions of years ago.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
FLRW writes:
"Recent research"? You mean just another untestable theoretical fantasy dreamed up by atheists who can't accept the implications of the non-existence of fossil ancestors leading up to the Cambrian explosion. An untestable theory doesn't even qualify as science - it's just a worthless story.
Recent research suggests that the period prior to the Cambrian explosion saw the gradual evolution of a "genetic tool kit" of genes that govern developmental processes
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
edge writes:
Oh dear ... if this is your best defence, you're in trouble. As time goes by, the "incomplete fossil record" argument gets weaker and weaker. The Chinese Cambrian fossil beds did evolutionary theory no favours at all - more soft-bodies fossils were found but no evolutionary links between the Ediacaran and the Cambrian.
Except that even Darwin had an explanation a century and a half ago. That basic explanation still stands.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
Deary, deary me. Another mistake of embarrassing proportions. Apparently I'm a "YEC" who accepts the scientific evidence that life on earth could have started billions of years ago - hilarious! Since he's now come out explicitly as a YEC, I'm waiting for him to make that standard bunny-blunder claim. I'm sure that he'll revert to standard YEC behavior and avoid presenting any evidence to support YEC. Listen, this is how it works: “YEC” stands for Young Earth Creationist. Please note the part that says “Young Earth”. I don’t believe in a “Young Earth” - in fact, I accept that scientific evidence that suggests the earth (and life on earth) could be billions of years old. I accept the same fossil record and time-frame as you do. Therefore, I cannot be a Young Earth Creationist. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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