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Author | Topic: Any practical use for Universal Common Ancestor? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
All theories are based on observations. Oh, in that case what you mean is, the common ancestor is a theory based on observations.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
You made the claim that there is no practical use for a UCA. You have been shown that scientists disagree with you. It is up to you to show that they are wrong. you made a claim and it's up to you to substantiate it with evidence.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Conveniently, yes. I have no idea which practical uses you're referring to - I seem to have missed those posts!And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
Nobody expects you to take reality seriously. You have an obligation to present the findings in each of those articles if you expect me to take any of it seriously.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
The "silly" putdowns just reflect the absurdity of your position. So are silly putdowns.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
If you noticed anything it would be a bloody miracle.
Is it my imagination or am I noticing a pattern here? Dredge writes:
I have asked you to back up your claim that there is no use for UCA. You have been shown that your claim is nonsense. If you're too dense to see what you've been shown, that may be a reflection on my/our ability to demonstrate but it is not a reflection on the reality of the UCA or its usefulness. You sometimes make a claim....And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
That's exactly what the OP says. Here it is again to remind you:
ringo writes:
Except that is not my claim. Read the OP. I have asked you to back up your claim that there is no use for UCA.quote:When you said UCA was useless, what else did you mean other than it has no use? Edited by ringo, : Fixed quote. Edited by ringo, : Splling.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Why would they? Why not just pray to God for healing? Are you saying YEC scientists couldn't develop drugs and vaccines? If so, why not?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
It's kinda like how a cup-holder isn't necessary in a car, even if every car has one. So that means it isn't necessary to the ToE?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
That's a distinction without a difference. You don't get to define "practical' any more than you get to define "useful". You can't just claim a use is not a practical use. The OP specifically asks for PRACTICAL uses for UCA. The concept of UCA is not "useless", because it's useful in evolutionary theory - however it is useless in any practical sense.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
You can predict that something will be unexplainable just like you can predict that mankind will never fly - but then it happens; the prediction was wrong. PC predicts that there will be scientifically inexplicable gaps in the fossil record. That isn't the same as ToE predicting that the gaps will be explained. When a gap is filled in - and it happens every day - you can't unfill it.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
But of course it doesn't. No creationist has ever been able to explain the "hydraulic sorting" or demonstrate how it could actually happen. The Flood explains it all just fine....And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
But that "limitation on the genome" doesn't exist - no creationist has ever been able to demonstrate that it does, or even explain how it could. Nor can any evolutionist explain how to get from one species to another given the limitations of the genome of any given species that amounts to a program for that species and no other.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
You haven't answeted my question: How is it even possible for there to be a "barrier" in the genome when the DNA of every species is made from the same building blocks. What is it exactly that prevents exchanging one block for another? What prevents editing "cat" to "dog"? I've explained it many times.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 708 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That doesn't answer the question. What is the barrier? I've defined it functionally many times as exemplified by how breeds of, say, dogs, run out of variability the closer they get to being purebred.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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