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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.8
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Dredge writes: Tanypteryx writes:
NO ONE benefits from the concept of UCA ... or any evolutionary theory, for that matter. Its only "benefit" is to make all those atheists out there feel more emotionally secure. We don't give a shit whether you benefit from it or not Well, one benefit is it sure makes you insecure.
Dredge writes: We are not applying evolution to what we are discovering, we are learning evolution from what we are discovering.
Whatever useful applications of biology are discovered, you can be 100% certain none of them will depend on accepting UCA. Wow, 100% certainty. Of course, since you are full of bullshit I probably won't take you word for anything.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tangle Member Posts: 9580 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
It's the 150 year anniversary of the discovery of the relatedness of chemical elements that allow them to be organised into categories and create predictions for missing elements.
Mendeleev’s Periodic Table of Elements celebrates its 150th anniversary - Science & Space - TASS This reminds me a little of how organisms can be organised into taxonomies both living and historic. Also allowing predictions to be made about 'missing links'. The UCA is a conclusion based on tracing these taxonomic groups back in time.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Stile Member (Idle past 295 days) Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: |
Dredge writes: However, I remain unconvinced that any evolutionary theory has provided a practical use in applied science. I'm sure you do, buddy. Hey, I heard some flat-earthers are having a convention... you going?
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
You can't provide an example of a practical use for evolutionary theory. Thank you, that's all I need to know.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.8 |
You can't provide an example of a practical use for evolutionary theory. Thank you, that's all I need to know. Like you said, knowing that is of no use to applied science. And besides, you can't possibly know that because you couldn't have possibly done any useful research about a useless subject.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Stile Member (Idle past 295 days) Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined:
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Dredge writes: You can't provide an example of a practical use for evolutionary theory. Thank you, that's all I need to know. I can't? What... like medicine? Ha ha... sure, whatever you say, buddy.
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ringo Member (Idle past 664 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
You're being dishonest. You've moved the goalposts from UCA to evolutionary theory. You can't provide an example of a practical use for evolutionary theory.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Tangle writes: And do also you accept the theory of evolution that explains those fossils? The "theory of evolution that explains those fossils"? There is no such thing as science is incapable of explaining the fossil record.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes: Typical creationist BS.The point here Drudge, is that your claim is not worth debating. You are a troll ignorant of the science and the particulars of the issues. Your only purpose here is to insult evolution in a vain attempt to emotionally shore-up your errant beliefs in religious majik. You fail, miserably, in intellect, knowledge, logic and all the other attributes necessary to debate questions with thinking human beings. You are desperate to debunk the tenets of evolution since they destroy your precious god delusions and that scares the hell out of you. Interesting. It actually scares the hell into you which is why you feel so desperate. Think about it. You have before you a proven hell-free existence just by embracing reality. You don't really need your gods after all. It's got nothing to do with "Typicial creationist BS". I simply asked you to provide an example of a practical use for evolutionary theory, but you repllied with a completely irrelevant, anti-theist rant. In other words, you've got nothing. Therefore you would agree with me that evolutionary theory has provided no practical uses at all in applied science ... no?
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
ringo writes:
It seems you are wrong on two counts: You're being dishonest. You've moved the goalposts from UCA to evolutionary theory.1. Where did I say I'm dropping the concept of UCA from the discussion? 2. The concept of UCA implies evolutionary theory.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
Stile writes: I can't? What... like medicine? Pray tell ... how has evolutionary theory proven useful in medicine? Please provide a specific example.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
edge writes:
1. Straw man. Okay, so we can just do away with basic biological science. 2. When a theoretical biologist comes up with something important to say (as opposed to useless pseudo-scientific stories), wake me up.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
edge writes:
What?
Interesting. Then who wrote this: A biologist who doesn't work in the field of applied biology isn't worth talking to. ... if not you?
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
edge writes:
I'm simply asking if anyone can give me an example of a practical use for evolutionary theory. It looks like you've got nothing to offer.
The argument here is an intellectually vacant exercise unless one just wants to stir the pot. Suggesting that a theory does not do something it was never intended to do is just a form of trolling, not to be taken seriously.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: |
ringo writes: I presume by looking at how climate change may have affected evolution in the past.But this is a classic case of goalpost-shifting. You asked for examples of uses for the UCA. There's an example. Now you're demanding that I justify the usefulness of the example? As I said earlier in the thread, it's up to scientists to decide what's useful to them. How has "looking at how climate change may have affected evolution in the past" provided a practical use today? You made the claim, now you need to back it up with supporting evidence - to wit: a specific example.
Then you're shooting yourself in the foot. If they use it, it's useful.
You're really getting desperate now. You're implying that I said ALL evolutionary biology is useful, which is not what I said at all. evolutionary biology = biology + evolutionary theory. The "biology" part is useful; the "evolutionary theory" part is useless. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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