Any practical use for Universal Common Ancestor?

Je ne sais pas. Non lo so. ??? 1. Wrong. Theoretical science can prove invaluable.
2. Straw man. Er, no - I can't find "my personal criteria" in the OP. The OP actually asks for usefulness according to applied science. 1. Irrelevant to the post.2. I am not a YEC and I have never mentioned ID.3. YEC/ID are religious beliefs - you want me to provide practical scientific applications for religious beliefs? Let me guess ... here you were thinking that nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of your cherished belief in UCA, but it seems that nothing in all of applied science depends on your UCA belief system - and you find this hard to accept?Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

Yes. But it's irrelevant to my point and do you really want to discuss something we all learnt about in highschool? You're digressing. I said I can't think of a practical use for knowing that the sky is blue - can you?Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

How do the confines of applied science amount to "unreasonable requirements". Applied science is the most important sphere of science and it is only sphere of science that really matters. No one reduced suffering or cured disease or fed hungry mouths with a theory, esp not one of the most useless theories ever - UCA. I can answer your question, as I don't know what you mean by "your errant opinions".Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

I agree.

I know.Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.

Really? I was under the impression "science" actually includes "applied science".

So what's your beef?UCA is simply a derived conclusion of the ToE, it's just an interesting spin-off of the theory, it doesn't need a practical use and it's not something anybody spends any time on.And, by-the-way, it has nothing at all to do with atheism.

Transistors are only "eminently useful in a practical sense and have also proven useful in applied science" within the realm of electronic devices.Go ahead, try it.
Can you think of any usefulness of a transistor at all outside of electronics?That's what you're doing with "useless stories of UCA."Sure - they may very well be useless "outside the realm of evolutionary theory."
But, who cares? That's not where UCA is supposed to be useful.UCA is supposed to be useful within the realm of evolutionary theory. And it is. Very useful.
Just as transistors are only useful within the realm of electronic devices. Very useful.The point is that your limit of "outside the realm of evolutionary theory" is a silly, ridiculous limit - and it only makes you look foolish.
As foolish as someone running around saying "Hey! Transistors are USELESS outside electronic devices! Why are you all using transistors!?? They're USELESS!!!"Sure. Useless. Whatever you say, buddy.

Then why are you wasting time with this thread?

He's a creationist. He doesn't have any good arguments, but he doesn't want to stop arguing.

And he's pissed that all those horrible atheists don't believe in his imaginary god.

As Stile said, you're taking UCA outside the discipline it is intended to inform and insisting that since it has marginal to no utility in traffic control systems (an applied science) it has no utility anywhere.Typical religious logic. Now you're talking about your religion. Useless to society, harmful to critical thinking and damn deadly to living things everywhere.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

So, something value may be of no use? Okay, then, what is your point? Then you agree that common ancestry is useful in pure science, yes?Again, I don't see the reason for you to make this point. Once again, in this case, I see no reason for you to make the point in the OP. You are welcome to your opinion but it is without effect. Then you guess wrongly. I am not a biologist and that is not my first impression of the argument.To compound that, it is not MY belief, nor do I cherish it.Your insinuations tell me that you have a motive for your OP. Why not just come out and say it? What is there to accept? Your statement is so watered down that anyone could agree with it.It is your opinion that common ancestry has no direct practical application in "applied science".So what?

The sames creationists say there was divergence and "evolution".The same creationists accept DNA as real.Genetic understanding is relevant to deciding which people are more likely to suffer from whatever type of disease.Genetic understanding is also relevant to getting the best treatment.Now, the question:The question is whether "macro" evolutionary understanding of DNA comparisons can help clue a scientist in on fruitful areas of disease research, and in a way that creationists might be inclined to avoid.Look at the issue of using animal research to help find cures to human diseases.(When it comes to animal research, we can rule out the idea of most creationists having any ethical concerns, so I will lay that issue aside)Whales get HIV, I believe. Rats and Chimps have some useful "disease research" functions.Does the macro-evolutionary understanding cause more and better research to necessarily happen?

I put this into google:disease research mice dna humans(computer won't let me type words above "I put this into google" or hit "Enter" to drop the line to a lower horizon in message)(I was going to start this message by asking for the creationist understanding of cross-specie applied research relative to diseases)

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