A Different Creation Model

I like to read and find ways of getting my head around things. I have my theistic beliefs, but I look to science to modify my beliefs. Creation has always presented a conundrum and this highly speculative theory has come out of all that.A literal reading of Genesis makes no sense. We didn’t actually even need science to see that. Science itself provides no real explanation except that it all started with the big bang and somehow evolved from there. I’d like to suggest another model of creation that is strictly speculative but seems to me to make sense.I’d like to start with this article. What's 96 Percent of the Universe Made Of? The universe as we perceive it is apparently only 4% of what actually exists. Science has shown us that there is a whole lot more out there.The 4% of all that is then, is the 4% that we are able to perceive with our 5 senses. Our theories on the 96% are based not of our perception of the 96%, but of its affect on the 4% we can perceive. Largely we are photon detectors. It seems to me reasonable to speculate that with different senses we would likely perceive a very different universe. For example if we didn’t have the sense of vision our perceived universe would be a lot less than the 4% that we actually can perceive. Also, if we didn’t have vision we would have no frame of reference to even consider the possibility of vision.Are there other senses possible that would give us a very different perception of the universe, or an expanded perception of universe?I read somewhere that our universe is an “emergent property of a greater reality”. If that is the case then it is reasonable to assume that our perception of creation is actually not of a creation of something from nothing. Creation of our perceived universe would actually be creation through evolutionary processes of creatures that were able to perceive a particular aspect of that creation, without directly perceiving the remaining 96%.If anyone is actually interested in my musings this could go in all sorts of directions, and I'd enjoy hearing your thoughts. I have my fingers in a lot of pies so I don’t always have time for EvC but I’ll do my best to keep up.I don’t really see a great fit for where this should go, but I suppose “Big Bang and Cosmology” might be the best fit. Whatever one of you moderators decide is fine by me.

I din't mean for this to go into the coffee house. I thought I was putting it in proposed new topic.

I guess if it takes generations that leaves us out of knowing the answer.
There was a headline on the front page of Scientific American a few years back that read like this:

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Hidden Worlds of Dark Matter - An entire universe may be silently interwoven with our own

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The actual article ended up like this:

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After all, visible matter comprises a rich spectrum of particles with multiple interactions determined by beautiful underlying symmetry principles, and nothing suggests that dark matter and dark energy should be any different. We may not encounter dark stars, planets or people, but just as we could hardly imagine the solar system without Neptune, Pluto and the swarm of objects that lie even further out, one day we might not be able to conceive of a universe without an intricate and fascinating dark world.

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We understand the dark world primarily because of its gravitational affect on us. However with my minimal understanding of conceptual QM I believe that particles disappear from our perceived universe while others appear. Maybe our existence is far more interwoven with the dark universe than we currently realize.Going back to creation then, it seems reasonable to speculate that maybe the totality of all that is might be far grander than we currently are able to understand. Maybe the totality is infinite and ultimately isn’t subject to the entropy that we experience now. As we know it is meaningless to talk about time before the Big Bang it seems to me that if the totality is infinite it would explain just why it is that there was no time before the Big Bang. Time as we perceive it could just be a component of our little 4% corner of the totality, and creation isn’t about matter as we know it, but about the evolutionary creation of beings that are able to perceive life as we know it.

Why does anybody suggest anything? I'm glad that science proposes things that sound outlandish, and then go out and try and prove it. I'm not in a position to prove anything but that shouldn't stop me from presenting ideas and seeing what other people think. Isn't that kinda the point of this forum? Please explain further. I understand the 4% to be that which we are able to perceive by our 5 senses.

Thanks Phat. I see the Bible as only one place where we can learn about God, but that we are can also learn about good from other people, creation itself and our own perceptions. In the end it is about belief, faith and how we view our role in this world.In the OP I do see an argument that could be made about how God might have created and might connect with our world. However, even if it is correct it would not rule out an atheistic answer. It would however answer some questions about basic theism.

Thanks for that. With the dawn of modern science the world keeps sounder stranger and stranger. I often wonder if animals don't have a sense or senses that we know absolutely nothing about. Right off topic is the fact that it is heartbreaking the way our animals are abused and particularly the ones that are destined for our dinner tables.