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Message 873 of 948 (842819)
11-08-2018 5:08 PM
Reply to: Message 870 by creation
11-08-2018 3:32 PM


Re: Astronomers just keep doing astronomy
Anyone that promotes the fables and con of false science...so called science...dealing in origin issues.
I hear ya man. I call it pseudoscience and I definitely hate it. Luckily we have the answer. It is called evidence, and it works every time.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 874 of 948 (842821)
11-08-2018 5:22 PM
Reply to: Message 871 by creation
11-08-2018 3:34 PM


Re: Confusing
Evolution from some little sweet made up nothing is not the evolution that is supported by science.
This is true. There are no biology textbooks that say "the Theory of Evolution says Evolution from some little sweet made up nothing."
ACTUAL evolving in the past is bible supported. Nothing says kinds could not evolve and fast fast fast fast fast fast!
Pure fiction. Evolution is not mentioned in the bible.
Same in the future in the bible lions will change fast to eat grass!
More fiction.
The theory of evolution is Satanic baseless fables.
Wow, Satanic no less. So far, you have not demonstrated that you have a clue what the Theory of Evolution is.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 879 of 948 (843291)
11-15-2018 9:26 PM
Reply to: Message 877 by creation
11-15-2018 8:06 PM


Re: Confusing
Changes are mentioned in the bible.
So what? The bible is fiction. This thread is about Supernova 1987A and how it absolutely falsifies a young Universe.
In the past and future.
More fiction. This thread is about Supernova 1987A and how it absolutely falsifies a young Universe.
The basic timeline is also given wherein all changes/evolving/adapting had to occur.
And yet more fiction. This thread is about Supernova 1987A and how it absolutely falsifies a young Universe.
We can rule out modern nature style/slow evolution/changing as far as the bible goes!
This is just pure bullshit you made up about a fictional book. This thread is about Supernova 1987A and how it absolutely falsifies a young Universe.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 883 of 948 (843501)
11-18-2018 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 881 by creation
11-18-2018 3:06 AM


Re: Confusing
You can call anything fiction.
I know, but I'm calling something specific fiction, your imaginary fantasy.
Too bad for you billions of people have experienced things that flush your little claim right down the toilet eh?
And yet not a single one of those billions can demonstrate that it is not a delusion.
You must be thinking about flushing your bullshit, good idea.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 884 of 948 (843502)
11-18-2018 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 882 by creation
11-18-2018 3:07 AM


Re: Confusing
The kinds are what was created. That is as immutable as ever anything could be immutable.
Pure fiction that has nothing remotely to do with the topic: Falsifying a young Universe. (re: Supernova 1987A)

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 888 of 948 (843599)
11-19-2018 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 886 by creation
11-19-2018 1:46 PM


Re: Confusing
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creation writes:
Too bad for you billions of people have experienced things that flush your little claim right down the toilet eh?
Tanypteryxreplies:
And yet not a single one of those billions can demonstrate that it is not a delusion.
creation writes:
You say none of the billions can demonstrate they are not delusional. Proof?
I was saying that not one of them can show that their religious beliefs are anything other than their imagination, just as you have been unable to show a shred of evidence that the stuff you are spouting is reality.
We all know that because if any evidence was discovered they would have showed it to everyone. So far nothing.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 893 of 948 (844101)
11-25-2018 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 891 by creation
11-25-2018 3:39 AM


Re: Confusing
Mankind for example was here from the start. No way to deny that is what the bible teaches.
Fiction.
Too bad that falsifying a young universe by SN1987a was a concept/claim that is already defeated here. Dead.
Not by you.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 903 of 948 (844200)
11-26-2018 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 902 by creation
11-26-2018 1:21 PM


Re: Confusing
Seeing a star does not tell us it's size or distance or true nature.
Obviously it does not tell YOU anything. It tells the rest of us many things, just as if your different nature is your imaginary, fictional fantasy.
Astronomers (and the rest of us) never consider your fantasy as reality. Thousands of papers about astrophysics discoveries are published every year and not one mentions your imaginary "change in nature." It's almost as if it doesn't exist.
Repeating fiction does not convert it to reality. Without evidence your fantasies are doomed to the dustbin.
What else stars may have that we cannot detect/see we do not know.
Well, no shit Sherlock.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 906 of 948 (844219)
11-26-2018 7:59 PM
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11-26-2018 7:53 PM


Re: Confusing
Phat writes:
Faith seems to think that once a believer chooses to take a leap of faith and surrender their mind to the Spirit, the confusion clears and becomes evident. creation, do you feel this way or do you agree with the timed honored scientific discipline of evidence?
Huh?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 909 of 948 (844223)
11-26-2018 8:26 PM
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11-26-2018 8:05 PM


Re: Confusing
to clarify, Faith believes more along these lines....that the evidence follows the conclusion rather than the other way around.
And I repeat, huh? Why are you asking creation questions in a post to me and telling me about Faith's flawed reasoning?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 911 of 948 (844225)
11-26-2018 8:29 PM
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11-26-2018 8:27 PM


Re: Confusing
OK, don't let it happen again.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 919 of 948 (844264)
11-27-2018 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 916 by creation
11-27-2018 2:31 AM


Re: Confusing
The volume of stupid papers does not matter to stars.
Have you ever read one?
The way little man determines distances matters.
To who?
To determine distances to stars time must be equal all the way to the star.
Are you sure? How do you know that?
You get that much?
Much more.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 920 of 948 (844270)
11-27-2018 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 913 by creation
11-27-2018 2:25 AM


Re: Two Questions
creation writes:
But the machinery of the stars and universe was for us, I would think.
What machinery?
creation writes:
Perhaps one thing they somehow do is regulate time for us!? Seasons and times. Who knows?
Well, clearly not you. Everyone knows that peanut butter regulates time for us. Flat tires regulate the seasons.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 921 of 948 (844271)
11-27-2018 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 918 by ringo
11-27-2018 11:11 AM


Re: Confusing
It's creationists who try to shoehorn the facts into what some ancient sheep herders believed.
Goat herders.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Message 925 of 948 (844288)
11-27-2018 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 923 by creation
11-27-2018 5:02 PM


Re: Precision movement
creation writes:
Well, look at a clock. There may be little cogs going round...moving. If one does not know what one is looking at, it may appear as random movement.
It may appear random to you, but to me it looks like a synchronized sequence of movements.
There is nothing about clocks that tells us about how stars or the Universe works.
creation writes:
Same idea with stars. They move...there are some things orbiting/going round other things out there...etc.
Things going around other things.....you are correct, you don't have a clue about the stars, the Universe, or much else.
creation writes:
If it was all created as the bible states from cover to cover
If? If? The bible is fiction and it barely mentions the stars.
creation writes:
then it is logical to assume that there are purposes and reasons for things that poor little man may not be aware of, though he see some movement!
No, it is not logical to assume that. You have not presented any reason for such an assumption.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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