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Message 30 of 72 (838797)
08-28-2018 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Dredge
08-28-2018 3:26 AM


Welcome back dredgie. I agree that PE is magic masquerading as science. I don't know where you get the notion of a Christian Progressive Creation, looks to me like a one-time thing in scripture, but Punctuated Equilibrium is a laughable delusion. It's based on the Big Delusion of course, the idea that the fossil record is to be read as evolution over time, but of course if it's nothing but the record of what died in the Flood that's ridiculous. It's really amusing to see what is nothing but an accidental collection of dead things treated as showing an evolving population, complete with wonderfully imaginative scenarios of how this population moved into that area and another joined up with it and so on and so forth. The historical sciences bring out the creative thinking, that's for sure..
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Message 32 of 72 (838799)
08-28-2018 2:03 PM
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08-28-2018 1:34 PM


For some reason EvC gets a motley collection of creationists. We hardly ever agree about anything.

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Message 34 of 72 (838802)
08-28-2018 2:16 PM
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08-28-2018 2:08 PM


Well, at least I'd say those of us that like to try out our personal ideas are attracted to EvC for that purpose.

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Message 38 of 72 (838823)
08-28-2018 9:53 PM
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08-28-2018 6:28 PM


The snail species didn't migrate anywhere, it got killed and buried by the Flood and stayed right where we find it in the strata.
And so did all the other species of snail in other parts of the strata, same as for every species of everything else too. Movement is purely an imaginative or magical idea.
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Message 40 of 72 (838842)
08-29-2018 11:26 AM
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08-29-2018 12:33 AM


Wow, the irony of you calling evidence imaginary or magic. You, who are enraptured by a completely imaginary creator. After 17 years here, the only person you've convinced is yourself.
What a waste.
I agree, that's pretty sad, but just as a matter of fact I was away for long periods during that seventeen years and I think it has been more like maybe eight years of total waste here.
However, it's just a matter of logic that, if the Flood deposited the strata with their fossils, the whole idea that you can trace geographical movements and evolutionary patterns from the fossils is strictly imaginary.

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Message 42 of 72 (838852)
08-29-2018 12:17 PM
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08-29-2018 11:57 AM


Still, the logic remains correct: if the Flood is the cause then the whole evolutionary interpretation is imaginary.

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Message 44 of 72 (838859)
08-29-2018 12:32 PM
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08-29-2018 12:24 PM


Well, the premise is true. Science does not show otherwise, only mass delusion.
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Message 48 of 72 (838867)
08-29-2018 12:41 PM
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08-29-2018 12:37 PM


This science is wrong.

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Message 49 of 72 (838869)
08-29-2018 12:43 PM
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08-29-2018 12:40 PM


There is no evidence that shows the Flood is imaginary. For that to be the case you have to ignore the abundant evidence of the fossils and the strata, which you do by redefining them to fit your "science."
Punctuated Equilibrium is based on the nonsensical interpretation of the fossils as showing evolution up the geologic column. It's nothing but a mental notion, and the Flood explains it a lot better. Which means that PE is a magic trick just like all the other evo interpretations of the fossil record are.

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Message 55 of 72 (838900)
08-29-2018 8:30 PM
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08-29-2018 6:18 PM


Of course there are migrations, I said nothing about that, what I said was that it's ridiculous to think you can tell such things from the fossil record.

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Message 59 of 72 (838978)
08-31-2018 5:00 PM
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08-30-2018 3:54 PM


Taq writes:
Faith writes:
Of course there are migrations, I said nothing about that, what I said was that it's ridiculous to think you can tell such things from the fossil record.
Why is it ridiculous?
Message 30
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Message 60 of 72 (838979)
08-31-2018 5:19 PM
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08-29-2018 8:02 PM


Re: Laughter is the appropriate response when someone asserts a Biblical Flood happened.
jar writes:
Laughter is the appropriate response when someone asserts a Biblical Flood happened....
2Peter3:3-10 writes:
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

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