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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1701 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1701 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I do not want this thread to become a political thread which just means a Trump-bashing fest. I'm sorry I posted anything at all about Trump. Forgive me but I'm too aware of the Leftist agenda against him to take anything anyone here says seriously. Sorry. You may be right about some of it, probably are, but I do not care because I know there is a sick agenda behind most of it and I don't want the job of trying to sort it out. Take it to the Trump Presidency Bashing thread.
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jar Member (Idle past 96 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
quote: The really sad thing is that is an accurate analysis of his support base.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: |
Tangle concludes:
Unfortunately there are more stupid people than clever people but they all get the same vote. The Achilles Heel of a true Democracy, alas. But the alternatives, such as a Meritocracy, are subject to even more corruption.- xongsmith, 5.7d
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Tangle Member Posts: 9581 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
Xongsmith writes: The Achilles Heel of a true Democracy, alas. But the alternatives, such as a Meritocracy, are subject to even more corruption. Yeh, that's why we should spend whatever it costs to educate people and be very careful what questions we ask them.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Phat Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
also, keep in mind that OT populations had no "saved" people whereas NT Christians are...which shifts awareness of responsibility in regards to electing a good government...precisely what the red letter bunch claims.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
You may be right about some of it, probably are, but I do not care because I know there is a sick agenda behind most of it and I don't want the job of trying to sort it out. You don't have to do any sorting. It's already been done.
Take it to the Trump Presidency Bashing thread. This thread is about Red Letter Christians criticizing Trump. It is going to be difficult to declare Trump criticism off topic here, because those criticisms often serve as examples of Trump doing things that no evangelical ought to support, but which they surely do. Your wish won't be granted. Kudos on not falling into the same category by finding this particular instance unacceptable. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2497 Joined: |
It resulted in the Republican candidate winning most of the south, which was the ONLY election in the 19th century that the GOP WON SOUTHERN ELECTORAL VOTES.
The candidate was Horace Greeley and he was a Liberal Republican. (The Democrats endorsed him and changed their platform to match his support for civil rights) He lost by 56% to 44% to the Republican. All quotes from: Horace Greeley - Wikipedia See last quote for the Democratic Convention and its platform.
quote: He got appointed to congress because he supported the turd Zachary Taylor in 1848. He lasted all of 3 months before his anti-corruption efforts got him hated.
quote: His influence turned the nation against slavery.
quote: He actually employed Carl Marx LONG before the Communist Manifesto was written
quote: Now the Democratic convention.
quote: He interviewed Native Americans and was sympathetic . I often hear issues of religion invoked when it comes to who was fighting for civil rights and opposing slavery. I wonder how relevant it is that a socialist & Universalist was such a mover and shaker for civil rights. Any comments?
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
It resulted in the Republican candidate winning most of the south, which was the ONLY election in the 19th century that the GOP WON SOUTHERN ELECTORAL VOTES. I'm not sure I'd read too much into this. Greeley's campaign included ending Reconstruction, so that should have contributed to unreconstructed white voters supporting him. What did more to bring the South to the Republican candidate was that the unreconstructed white vote was split among several candidates. Meanwhile, the freedmen (newly freed slaves) were obviously going to vote Republican as were a fair number of "scalawags" (white Southerners who supported the Union and Reconstruction) - and since the South was still under military occupation, their rights to vote were still being protected in most areas. I think that tying Republican victories in the South to a civil rights platform in the Democratic party, if that indeed happened, might be too simple a connection.Oh, God! Pride of Man, broken in the dust again! -- Quicksilver Messenger Service
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LamarkNewAge Member Posts: 2497 Joined: |
My pure Lakota friend (with long straight black hair with pony tail) was off for a week, but when I was made aware of his presence, this morning when he caught me from behind (with a hand on my shoulder/neck area), I turned around and I easily noticed his sun tan.
I asked him what on earth he was doing. "Were you out laying in the sun for a whole week?" He started teasing me about how he already has brown skin (holding his arm out and comparing it to my own) He told me about his very special Sun Dance. Sun Dance - Wikipedia I looked it up and was shocked to see that it was actually banned until the 1970s. I actually called him up, and thanked him for telling me about the ceremony. He said it was banned until 1974 (then he corrected himself and said 1978). I asked him about the secrecy issues. He said whites are allowed to be brought in to watch, but they can't say anything. I asked him if that meant total silence. He said that a person from the outside isn't allowed to go tell stories about how silly people looked running around and making strange noises. (He is a devout Christian btw)
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