The spectacular fall of YEC beliefs

To have a better understanding of establishment of religion you should read Memorial and RemonstranceIt does not have to mean a State Church. You really ought to familiarise yourself with the relevant history - and it doesn’t get much more relevant than this.

The whole point is to argue against government support for religion.
That is what is meant by establishment.

Or maybe your sources are being deceptive - or worse.Or maybe the judicial interference actually went the other way, and the real intent is more properly reflected by current legal thinking.

I note that you still manage to miss both my point and Madison’s.Madison was protesting against a bill which would see Christian ministers - except for Quakers or Menonists - supported by tax monies raised by the state government.And this was considered - by Madison - to be an establishment of religion.

Then I am glad that you have changed your mind. Establishment does not require a state church.

But you don’t trust Muslims. If you try to forcibly convert them they are allowed to pretend to go along with it!(Since you say you aren’t interested in forcibly converting them it’s hard to see why you’d worry about it. But you are)And even in debate you like to make false accusations. We’ve all seen how you treat Edge to use one egregious and common example.