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Author Topic:   Evolution is antithetical to racism
jar
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Message 126 of 238 (424085)
09-25-2007 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by CTD
09-24-2007 9:46 PM


CTD continues to just make shit up
It is maintained that evolutionism is antithetical to racism because it teaches us how closely we are related to our fellow men.
Uh, bullshit. Please point out where "evolutionism" is even mentioned in the OP or where that assertion is maintained?
Biology has indeed revealed much along those lines.
Biology has confirmed what the Theory of Evolution predicted and that is, "Common Origins and Descent with Modification".
But evolutionism continually strives to remind us that there should be a struggle for survival, and that some of us must be "more fit" than others.
Again with the made up terms. There is no evidence that there is anything called "evolutionism". However, from an evolutionary perspective, a population that has a birth rate higher than its death rate is fit. There is no survival of the fittest, just survival of the fit.
Can evolutionism be used to support racism? It clearly has been used for that purpose, and it continues to this very day.
So you assert, yet you have never show that Evolutionism even exists or that the Theory of Evolution can actually be used to justify racism.
So one might ask if the racists are somehow misapplying evolutionism or being hypocritical. If they are, I can't see it. On what basis can one fault their reasoning? Evolutionism provides no basis whatsoever upon which to criticize them. Only via morals and ethics can they be faulted, and evolutionism is fairly scant on ammo.
I do not doubt that you cannot see it, since your posts show you to be totally clueless about what Evolution is or what the Theory of Evolution says. If those things had not been explained to you, it would be possible to imagine that you were simply ignorant. However they have been explained to you several times, so we are left with the possibility that you are willfully ignorant, deluded, or just plain lying.
So long as the 'theory' clearly states that stress and competition are appropriate and that one should strive do demonstrate and exploit the advantages of one's own group, this is a tall order indeed. So long as it implies that "inferior" specimens don't deserve to survive, it will have no chance whatsoever.
If those happened to be the case, then perhaps you might have an argument, but as with so much that you post, they are simply false.
The Theory of Evolution does not state "stress and competition are appropriate and that one should strive do demonstrate and exploit the advantages of one's own group" or that ""inferior" specimens don't deserve to survive". Both of those statements are false and again, as above, since that has been explained to you we are left wondering if you are willfully ignorant, deluded, or just plain lying.
The Theory of Evolution deals with the mechanisms that operate. That is all. There is no concept of "deserve" or "inferior" or "strive". It simply explains how biological and genetic changes happen, and the mechanism that selects out those traits that prevent the individual from living long enough to reproduce. Fitness of a population is simply when the birth rate of the population is higher than the death rate.
Try again should you wish, but so far you have not shown any evidence that Evolution is not antithetical to racism.
Edited by jar, : spallin

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jar
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Message 219 of 238 (830586)
04-03-2018 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by Faith
04-03-2018 12:52 PM


Re: Evolution provides the popular imagination with reasons for racism
LOL
Adam & Eve are fiction.
Christianity has historically been racist.
It is not the theory of Evolution but the Bible that was the primary source of the racist thoughts about black people; the Sons of Ham.
Have you ever read the Bible Faith? If not, try Genesis 9.

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jar
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Message 221 of 238 (830592)
04-03-2018 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 220 by Faith
04-03-2018 1:53 PM


Re: Evolution provides the popular imagination with reasons for racism
Faith writes:
Adam and Eve were quite real.
So you claim but you provide no evidence beyond the dogma of your cult.
Faith writes:
You aren't thinking any further back "historically" than a century or two. Racism is antithetical to Christianity.
Yet that is not what the Bible says. Have you ever read the Bible Faith. Did you go read Genesis 9?
Edited by jar, : sENTECES should start with a Capital letter.

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