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Author Topic:   Assumptions involved in scientific dating
DOCJ
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Message 117 of 222 (827389)
01-23-2018 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by Taq
01-23-2018 12:56 PM


Re: Questions
Lies? Be more specific. Who lied about what?

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Message 119 of 222 (827391)
01-23-2018 1:08 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by Taq
01-23-2018 12:43 PM


Re: Questions
I made a claim and provided a link to a source... Lol.
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Message 122 of 222 (827394)
01-23-2018 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Percy
01-23-2018 11:41 AM


Re: Questions
I meant quantify as is posted. I made a claim and referenced a link as a source. Still waiting on the response. It does seem like all of you haven't researched the source. I'll respond to your other post ASAP
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Message 123 of 222 (827395)
01-23-2018 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by Taq
01-23-2018 1:09 PM


Re: Questions
You need to research the source.

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DOCJ
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Message 124 of 222 (827396)
01-23-2018 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by Percy
01-23-2018 11:34 AM


Re: Questions
I'm guessing you need coffee, then go research the source.

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DOCJ
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Message 126 of 222 (827398)
01-23-2018 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by Stile
01-23-2018 11:36 AM


Re: Questions
My point was dating methods are disputed within the scientific community. Links provided... Lol..
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Message 130 of 222 (827403)
01-23-2018 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by Taq
01-23-2018 1:06 PM


Re: Questions
It's not difficult to understand or post that dating methods are being disputed in the science community. It is equally a simple matter to reference. Links have been provided.
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DOCJ
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Message 131 of 222 (827404)
01-23-2018 3:44 PM
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01-23-2018 2:54 PM


Re: Questions
It was a metaphor...
Dating methods are being disputed in the science community. Links provided.
There is absolutely nothing else needed to be posted. I've mastered the claim. Lol..

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DOCJ
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Message 132 of 222 (827405)
01-23-2018 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by Taq
01-23-2018 2:32 PM


Re: Questions
The Science community is ANYONE practicing Science. LOL. You don't get to control what is and what is not science. As long as they are making observations, formulating ideas based on observations, testing their ideas, making predictions, and presenting their conclusions before a group of peers to have others repeat their claim, or attempt to falsify their claim, it is the science community.. I know you would just LOVE it if you could pick and choose based on your feelings but that is not science.
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DOCJ
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Message 135 of 222 (827411)
01-23-2018 5:03 PM
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01-23-2018 1:22 PM


Re: Questions
Um I made a claim provided the data. Done.

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DOCJ
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Message 136 of 222 (827412)
01-23-2018 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by Coyote
01-23-2018 4:53 PM


Re: Questions
Prove your claim and fyi the EU is not a group of religious zealots, they are evolutionists.

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DOCJ
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Message 157 of 222 (827562)
01-27-2018 10:37 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by Coyote
01-23-2018 4:48 PM


Re: Questions
You need to read the previous post.. I was being facetious. Lol.

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Message 158 of 222 (827563)
01-27-2018 10:58 PM
Reply to: Message 156 by caffeine
01-26-2018 8:06 AM


Re: Questions
The EU, Answers in Genesis, Reasons to Believe, and other organizations have scientist working for them. Where they publish may be important to some but not to everyone. And what they publish is the gravity of importance NOT where they publish (yes peers need to be able to review it obviously). The peer review practice is obvious piece of the practice of publishing in order to draw attention but also to provide feedback. If you actually look into any of the organizations noted they all have conferences, peer reviews etc substantiating and arguing claims. The EU is 1 of the many organizations (not actually an organization but it is organized with many PhD holding scientists such as the late Halton Arp) with peer review. Some here seem to only pay attention to conventional gravitational based sciences. I'm pointing out in the world of science which is not limited to conventional Science, all dating practices from chemical to using redshift are disputed. It is NOT just creationist argument and ideas, it is also others within the scientific community like the EU. Keep in mind the EU is evolutionist generally such as Walton Thornhill (disputing dating), reasons to believe is creationist (supporting) such as Hugh Ross but they support dating methods. So you have evolutionist in EU disputing dating methods and you have creationist supporting them...
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Message 159 of 222 (827564)
01-27-2018 11:11 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by Taq
01-25-2018 11:47 AM


Re: his really stupid "Questions"
How do geologists calculate the amount of the parent/and daughter chemicals in the Rock at creation? They just presume the daughter was the p and suggest it decayed ? I would think that is overly simplified. I wouldn't be able to presume a rock over billions of years had didn't have contamination or didn't change over all that time... Or that 0 daughter was present at creation. We don't even have a good understanding of the universe without doubts. Where it actually came from without doubts.. How it is actually functioning without doubts.. We don't actually know space has an ability to be curved without doubts.. atmospheric refraction can explain light traveling around a planet, or intrinsic properties can explain star light..
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DOCJ
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Message 161 of 222 (827566)
01-27-2018 11:41 PM
Reply to: Message 160 by NoNukes
01-27-2018 11:34 PM


Re: Questions
Please refer to my previous post before responding.. you wasted your time. 1 comment, Halton Arp showed red shift does not point to Inflation, distance, etc. This does effect dating. He is 1 tiny example. My main point is in the scientific community these issues including chemical dating are being debated.
Arp
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