Who Made God?

The way I see it, the Bible is mostly an historical narrative about real who have a relationship God.
It includes prophecy, miracles, and stories that reflect moral guidance.I think many other religions fit this category.-mostly historical narratives about real people who have a relationship with their God
-includes prophecy
-includes miracles
-includes stories that reflect moral guidance...I actually have a hard time finding a religion that does not meet these similarities.You're correct that the specifics and details are always different. But I find that to be expected.

So, to recap.You claimed that: and tried to claim that it was a sensible argument. Now I suspect you are leaving something out - Perhaps Sayers was only six at the time - but it is extraordinarily silly.If we compare Esther with The Three Musketeers It doesn’t come off well.We know that King Louis XIII was a real person. We don’t know if the Ahasuerus of Esther is meant to be Artaxerxes - or if he was, which of the several Kings of that name is meant.We know who Queen Anne was, we don’t know if Queen Vashti was even based on a real personWe know who Cardinal Richelieu was, we don’t know who - if anyone - Haman was.We even know that d’Artagnan was a real person which is more than can be said for Esther.Are we supposed to think that The Three Musketeers is real history for that reason ? Never mind the almost fairy-tale story of Esther!I suppose it’s not surprising then that you offer nothing substantive in support of your assertion and eventually retreat to making equally evidence-free attacks on Bible scholars - refusing to discuss the points I raise against your assertions and giving up when I challenge you to produce a real example.Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

There is no other religion that even includes a historical narrative intended to support its religious views, at best it's all circumstantial. And there is absolutely not one shred of prophecy in any other religion, and so far only two "miracles" have been proposed for any other religion, without any convincing context whatever. It's all predominantly teachings.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Hindu creation story:
The Hindu Creation Story Hindu prophecies:
http://www.crystalinks.com/hindu2.htmlIslamic prophecies:
A Key Islamic Prophecy, Fulfilled by a New Faith - BahaiTeachings.orgMayan prophecies:
The 7 Maya Prophecies: Destruction or Evolution? - Yucatan TodayHindu miracle:
Ganesha drinking milk miracle - WikipediaDoes Google not work for you?Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

If you're going to put that demonic nonsense on a par with the Bible the conversation has bcome too irrational to continue.

The only one being irrational is you. You claimed that no other religion had prophecies and miracles, but that is clearly untrue. A simple Google search shows that you are wrong.

The reality though is that the Hindu Vedas have a longer history than the Bible and the Quran has greater consistency, authority and fewer contradictions than the Bible. There is but one Quran while there is a different Bible depending on which Canon is determinate. Just as with Christianity there are different Chapters of Club Islam, unlike Christianity they all have the exact same Quran while the Christian Canons vary from just five books to over 80 books.Edited by jar, : then ----> than

I was thinking of prophecies of real historical events in real historical time, something with at least the specificity of the biblical Messiah prophecies, not their weird unworldly history of Hinduism or the vagueness of the others. And miracles on the order of those in the Bible, not that little milik-drinking statue nonsense.But that's OK, I'm beginning to understand that nobody here gets the point of any of this anyway.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I understand that you believe the Bible... and you don't believe the other religions.
You think the Bible is true... and you don't think the other religions are true.That's apparent.That's also not what I'm talking about.The Bible includes a historical narrative (in the sense that it attempts to speak of history... regardless of it being true or not).
Other religions also include a historical narrative (in the sense that they attempt to speak of history... regardless of them being true or not).Can you agree that many different religions "attempt to speak of history" regardless of their ability to be true or not?It is very apparent that you think the Bible is true, and other religions are not.
But, can you agree that many religions attempt to speak of history? Regardless of the possible truth-value of their narrative?

Not for anybody but you.

My impression is that there is really NO history of anything related to earth in any other religion, whereas most of the Bible is history. The Bible covers a long long period in the history of Israel, touching on many actual places and people known to secular history. There's something laughable about saying any other religion is about history at all.What does "attempting to speak of history" even mean? The Bible has very lengthy TRUE history covering many centuries of real earth time.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yet the facts remain true Faith.As I pointed out, there is no such thing as "The Christian Bible" rather different branches of Christianity have decided that different books are canonical. There is no single Bible accepted by all of Christianity.In Islam, regardless of the sect, there is but one Quran.The stories in the Christian Bibles are for the most part written, edited and redacted by anonymous individuals.In Islam there is only a single source for the Quran, Mohamed.The Vedas predate any Christian Bibles as do the writings of Confucius or Mencius and the teachings of the Buddha.Reality is Faith, as much as you like to deny it. Edited by jar, : fro ----> for

Jesus didn't fulfill the Messianic prophecies, unless you are leaving out some history where Jesus led Israel and conquered all of its enemies. Christianity is on the same level as those other religions.As to miracles, I can find just as many in other religions:"One story tells how 500 pieces of firewood split at the Buddha's command. In another, a mad elephant charged wildly down a street forcing everyone to flee. Only the Buddha remained, quietly waiting. The elephant, overcome by the Buddha’s radiant kindness, knelt before him, and the Buddha patted his leathery trunk."
Miracles | The Buddha | PBSEdited by Taq, : No reason given.

That they try to explain things they think happened in the past that led to their present state today.
Regardless of it being true or not.Like me saying "When I was a kid I learned hard work... I walked to school and back, uphill both ways!"1 - Untrue without some clever usage of withholding significant information
2 - However I do speak about the past, and how it led to my present state today.I am "attempting to speak of history" even though the truth-value is irrelevant.
It is a "historical narrative" in this sense.Can you agree that other religions have "historical narratives" in this sense where we are not concerned about the truth-value being accurate?

My point, apparently unclear enough to allow for all kinds of weirdness instead of honest answers, is that the Bible offers REAL history and REAL prophecy in REAL space-time. Demonic imitations are a bore.