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Author Topic:   Genesis "kinds" may be Nested Hierarchies.
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Message 179 of 218 (825334)
12-13-2017 11:07 AM
Reply to: Message 176 by CRR
12-13-2017 3:29 AM


Re: Kinds and Nested Hierarchies
CRR writes:
Next, biologists have trouble defining what a species is!
You should have trouble defining what a species is if evolution is true. The Species Problem is a strong piece of evidence in favor of evolution. Because of evolution there is no sharp dividing line between species which makes it problematic when you try to define species in a non-arbitrary and objective manner.
Yes. The species belonging to one kind will form a nested hierarchy rooted at the original created kind (Genesis Kind).
All vertebrates form a nested hierarchy, so does that mean all vertebrates, including humans, share a common ancestor?
The mistake that many evolutionists make is to extrapolate beyond this to infer universal common ancestry.
We are interpolating since all species fit into a nested hierarchy.
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Message 184 of 218 (825353)
12-13-2017 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by Faith
12-13-2017 11:29 AM


Re: Kinds and Nested Hierarchies
Faith writes:
I haven't been able to make much sense of this thread, but if you're saying that a Kind will form its own nested hierarchy, that much makes sense. The problem is that evolution stacks Kinds one on top of another claiming a continuous set of nested hierarchies, so it seems to me you need an answer that shows that to be false.
So where is the break in the vertebrate nested hierarchy that includes everything from fish to humans? If you want to claim it isn't continuous, then show us how it isn't continuous.

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Message 202 of 218 (825504)
12-15-2017 11:51 AM
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12-14-2017 11:10 PM


Dredge writes:
Speaking of which, I wonder what nested hierarchy they fit into?
The same one that all other animal species fit into.

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Message 218 of 218 (826271)
12-27-2017 4:21 PM
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12-26-2017 12:30 AM


Dredge writes:
The links between fish and amphibians, amphibians and reptiles, reptiles and mammals, apes and humans are non-existent and are merely products of fertile human imagination.
That's not how it works. The nodes where the branches meet are made up of the features the species share. They are called "shared derived features".
Please learn how nested hierarchies work before claiming they don't exist.

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