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Percy Member Posts: 22508 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
And the whole thing is costing him just $20,000,.. ... The plan, as stated, is to send himself 1,800 feet high in the air... A commercial airline ticket would take him to a height of over 30,000 feet and cost far less than $20,000. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Bad dBCode.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1436 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
And the whole thing is costing him just $20,000,.. ... The plan, as stated, is to send himself 1,800 feet high in the air... A commercial airline ticket would take him to a height of over 30,000 feet and cost far less than $20,000. Indeed. Or a hot air balloon:
quote: But I still want to know how his stunt would prove the earth is flat. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Phat Member Posts: 18354 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
I wouldn't trust that thing to fly anywhere! Reminds me of those old-time videos where early attempts of aviation blew up and crashed again and again! This loon obviously seeks publicity...but for what reason?
Is Flat Earthism for real? How could anybody seriously believe that? Thats worse than believing that the planet is 6000 years old! Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1436 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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I wouldn't trust that thing to fly anywhere! Reminds me of those old-time videos where early attempts of aviation blew up and crashed again and again! This loon obviously seeks publicity...but for what reason? It looks to me like a prop for a 1950's Buck Rogers movie ... by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 379 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined:
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But I still want to know how his stunt would prove the earth is flat. Much more likely to prove that the earth is hard.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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But I still want to know how his stunt would prove the earth is flat. Much more likely to prove that the earth is hard. And that since he is flat, the Earth also must be flat. Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Fix quote box, also tweak message.
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Phat Member Posts: 18354 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0
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"It's the most interesting story in the world," Hughes told The Associated Press of his jury-rigged quest to overturn more than two millennia of scientific knowledge. And the whole thing is costing him just $20,000, according to the AP. Ahhh ok, now i get it. Hughes is paying for publicity and publicity alone. He must figure that $20,000 worth of publicity will get him well known enough to tap the loon marketplace. If he is smart, he will invest some money into keeping himself alive while he does his publicity stunt. Perhaps a giant airbag? Edited by Phat, : changed him to himselfChance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Paul was probably SO soaked in prayer nobody else has ever equaled him.~Faith
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Phat writes: If he is smart, he will invest some money into keeping him alive while he does his publicity stunt. Hire a Stunt Double from Central Casting.
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ringo Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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quote:He seems to be channelling Trump. No doubt it will be the longest flight in the history of the world too, with the largest crowd in the history of the world watching.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1436 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
He seems to be channelling Trump. No doubt it will be the longest flight in the history of the world too, with the largest crowd in the history of the world watching. and the softest landing after reaching a new record altitude ... and yet the question remains ... ... how would this prove the earth is flat? The higher you go the more you see, but you'll never see the other side of the earth. Loonyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1055 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined:
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Re: Flat Earther "Mad" Mike Hughes ... I wouldn't trust that thing to fly anywhere! Reminds me of those old-time videos where early attempts of aviation blew up and crashed again and again! This loon obviously seeks publicity...but for what reason? Is Flat Earthism for real? How could anybody seriously believe that? Thats worse than believing that the planet is 6000 years old! I suspect he doesn't believe all this flat earth silliness either. Apparently he launched a fundraising campaign for his rocket launch a few years ago with no mention of this, and only got a couple of hundred dollars. He didn't say anything about proving the earth flat when he did his last rocket flight, either (the one that landed him in hospital). After appearing on a radio program and talking about his attempt to get funding and prove that NASA's round earth lies are all an NWO conspiracy, however, he's raised thousands. Basically, he likes to play with his home-made rockets, and has figured out a way to get gullible people to pay for it.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7
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Is Flat Earthism for real? How could anybody seriously believe that? Thats worse than believing that the planet is 6000 years old! Oddly enough, it is real. There was even a convention recently. Just off-hand, I would assume that it's part of the larger anti-science mentality which we see so much of from the YECs. They feel that science conflicts with or even refutes with certain key points of things that they believe, so they want science to simply go away. But they also like their computers, the Internet, and flush toilets too much, so they also don't want science to go away. So they end up taking a cafeteria approach of picking and choosing which parts of science they want to keep and which parts they want to get rid of -- pretty much the same approach that they take with religion and with the Bible. In the case of the Bible, they just ignore what they don't like, but in the case of science they look for things that science had gotten wrong and use that as an excuse to reject other things that they believe science had gotten wrong, but without having to reject those parts of science that brought them the things that they do like such as computers, microwave ovens, and flush toilets (in a last-season episode of Dark Matter the ship gets sent back in time a few centuries to modern-day earth; one character's primary concern was what kind of toilets existed in this primitive era). A real-life example of creationists attacking science for apparently no other reason than to just discredit science was when local creationist Bill Morgan (he has several YouTube videos of presentations and debates) reported on a presentation at the local creationist club about the ozone layer -- he was VP of that club and published a monthly newsletter, which is where he would report on a speaker's presentation at the previous meeting. I describe it at http://cre-ev.dwise1.net/morgan/q_ozone.html. Basically, the speaker claimed that everything scientists were saying about refrigerants causing the hole in the ozone layer at the South Pole was based completely on laboratory experiments. That speaker presented a series of questions that he claimed had not been answered. Curiously, when I went to NOAA's site and to the pages about the ozone layer, those exact-same questions were presented in the FAQ and they were all answered. That speaker also argued that those heavy refrigerant molecules could never get up into the upper atmosphere to do damage was contrary to that site's report of the levels of those refrigerants found at various altitudes based on air samples taken by sounding rockets. BTW, a key part of that speaker's claim, which Bill Morgan had adopted, was that no scientist had ever answered that list of questions, despite the simple fact that those very same questions were part of NOAA's FAQ. On that page given above, I have a timeline of Bill Morgan's use of this claim:
But the main question about that ozone layer lie is why he considered it so important that he kept using it in spite of the knowledge from the start that it was false and why it had even been made in the first place. I think that creationists are driven to find and point out where science has been wrong about something just so that they can then arbitrarily choose which parts of science to ignore. We saw the same thing at work when CRR argued so doggedly to prove Neil deGrasse Tyson and Galileo wrong about ballistics. Whatever does ballistics and gravity have to do with evolution? All he wanted was to be able to say that scientists were wrong about something. Back to Flat Earthism, frequent NCSE contributor Schadewald wrote an article about flat-earthers, at which time there were so few that the Flat Earth Society basically had only one member. Flat-earthers and YECs often get lumped together in terms of their ignorance of and disdain for science. That irritates YECs such that either Gish or H. Morris made a public statement that there are no member of the ICR is a flat-earther. Shortly after that, they received an angry letter cancelling his membership which said, "Now there isn't!"
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7
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I wouldn't trust that thing to fly anywhere! Reminds me of those old-time videos where early attempts of aviation blew up and crashed again and again! "Tom Swift and His Steam Powered Rocket." BTW, in 1911 "Tom Swift and His Electric Rifle" was published. Decades later, "Thomas A. Swift's Electric Rifle" became the acronym, TASER.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5952 Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
From what I read, this guy became a flat-earther only one year ago.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 315 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Or a hot air balloon: Or an elevator. There are at least five buildings taller than his goal of 1,800 feet.
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