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Author Topic:   Y.E.C. Model: Was there rapid evolution and speciation post flood?
RAZD
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Message 492 of 518 (823362)
11-09-2017 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 488 by starman
11-09-2017 12:28 PM


Re: the continued failures of starman, now at #32 and counting
You did not know what to look for in finding tree rings or anything else that might pre date our nature. ...
Curiously, nothing was "looked for" other than annual rings, which are characteristically different from false or intermediate rings and can be easily distinguished one from the other.
... Don't pretend you found nothing, you looked for nothing. ...
Again, scientists look for what the evidence shows so that they can document it. Anything out of the ordinary is noted, documented and then questioned to find out the cause. Finding something out of the ordinary is a dream of scientists, as that is how new information is discovered.
So no, nothing out of the ordinary was found because there was nothing out of the ordinary.
If you have evidence otherwise, present it. Oh wait, you can't do that because you have squat. Fail #32.
... Tree rings still formed whatever nature they grew in. It just happens that in the present state rings take a certain time to grow.
And a certain climate, with a characteristic pattern because of the climate, and that the observed rings all fit that pattern with nothing out of the ordinary.
These are things you would know if you looked into how dendrochronology was done, but obviously you have not done that.
As for pretending there is some great point buried in other threads that you could not have summarized here, let's be honest.
Curiously, I'm not sure you can be honest. I believe I posted an answer to this somewhere ...
Looking forward to failure #33 as you continue to display the evidence of creationism being a useless belief.
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Message 493 of 518 (823364)
11-09-2017 1:18 PM
Reply to: Message 472 by starman
11-07-2017 4:31 PM


Re: Starman fails ... #33 and counting
Your same state past based godless models of the past are fake news so called science.
Whifff ...
Again you fail to provide evidence to make your fantasy worth considering. Fail #33
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Message 503 of 518 (823422)
11-10-2017 7:00 AM
Reply to: Message 498 by starman
11-09-2017 3:37 PM


Re: Starman fails as predicted -- fail #34
You forgot to show reasons we know there was radioactive decay on earth long ago. Sorry, I will not take your belief based wishful thinking or word for it.
Oh but I have, HERE, you just haven't read it.
and you still failed to provide any evidence to support your assertions. Fail 34
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Message 504 of 518 (823423)
11-10-2017 7:06 AM
Reply to: Message 499 by starman
11-09-2017 3:38 PM


Re: the continued failures of starman, now at #35 and counting
Nothing looked for but rings eh. ...
What else would you look for when counting rings, emeralds?
... Show us some rings over 5000 layers deep that you think had to be laid down in this nature. No song and dance needed.
After you stop your song and dance and show us some substantiation for your assertions ... but you won't, you can't, you fail again.
If you actually read Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1 you would see some.
But you don't read threads, because they contain information you can't deal with except through denial.
Failed again you did. #35
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RAZD
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Message 518 of 518 (823472)
11-10-2017 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 509 by starman
11-10-2017 11:48 AM


Re: Starman fails as predicted -- fail #41
Zip it and show the post as you were asked to, that does what you say. Why pretend?
Actually I did this about 10 times, and when you finally clicked on it, you only read the first paragraph, thought you had a wicked comeback that you then posted, but it only exposed your failure to read beyond the first paragraph.
So you are not truly interested in the actual post, not interested in the information, not really debating in good faith, not reading for comprehension, but just to post silly troll comments designed to aggravate the honest posters.
You failed in this too -- you just made yourself a laughing stock and whipping boy.
Message 511: Funny you could not post some relevant point from the link you spammed here eh? Instead, we see a pretense that somewhere else you really said things clever and relevant. Sorry, that is pretty lame.
Funny that it took you so long to actually LOOK at the information instead of just troll-plaining about it.
As for looking at tree rings that are beyond 5000 layers deep...let's do it. Show us some close ups and explain why the rings we will see there had to be present nature grown!? All talk, no action.
Indeed you are all talk and no action. Read the Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1 thread and then ask your questions. Of course it is about much more than tree rings, and the major issue that you have ignored is the consilience of the different systems: why does science keep getting the same results from all the different systems?
Your responses have devolved into such a level of silly denial and issue avoidance that there is no way to distinguish your purported "before" time from the present time, and thus either everything is illusion or the science is real and there is no "before" time. This is a major failure on your part, but it is the inevitable result of an argument doomed to failure from the start.
Fail #41.
Message 673: To anyone having some actual point of discussion or debate....I will check my blog.
I am suspending EVC from my posts for a few weeks or maybe forever, we'll see.
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And that is the inevitable result of a poster with a failed argument that is unwilling to learn or change his mind.
Don't hurry back -- you won't be missed.
Enjoy
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