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Author Topic:   Y.E.C. Model: Was there rapid evolution and speciation post flood?
jar
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Message 478 of 518 (823222)
11-07-2017 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 474 by starman
11-07-2017 4:34 PM


Re: Starman fails
You've never read the Bible have you or have any idea of how it was created.
Reality once again shows you are ignorant. The beginning of Genesis 2 is part of the much newer Genesis 1 story. Genesis 2 itself was written long before Genesis 1 and under a different religious tradition.

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jar
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Message 481 of 518 (823225)
11-07-2017 5:20 PM
Reply to: Message 475 by starman
11-07-2017 4:35 PM


Re: most of us are neither utterly ignorant or utterly dishonest
starman writes:
Wrong. I doubt there was any DNA as we now see it then even! In any case all DNA we do have is very post nature change. Sorry you get another GONG!
Yet despite your doubts and utter ignorance, we do have many. many DNA samples and not just humans but animals and plants and fungi as well from before the Garden of Eden fantasy, before the Biblical Flood myths, and the DNA show things were pretty much the same as now.
I mentioned tzi and if you were not so utterly willfully ignorant you would know that with tzi we have not just DNA samples of him but also from the clothes he wore, the food he ate, the things in his Dopp bag.
Once again, all you have is ignorance, we have truth and reality and ALL the evidence and so we win.
Edited by jar, : yet ---> Yet
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jar
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Message 489 of 518 (823353)
11-09-2017 12:37 PM
Reply to: Message 483 by starman
11-09-2017 12:19 PM


Re: most of us are neither utterly ignorant or utterly dishonest
starman writes:
Not true. All DNA we have is very post flood era.
Sorry but your denial of reality and facts does not change the fact that we do have DNA from before the Garden of Eden even. I even provided you with one example, tzi who died over 5000 years ago and so would have been a contemporary of Adam if Adam had been a real person. There is also the DNA from the Anzick child that died over 12,000 years ago.
Your utter ignorance has no effect on either reality or truth.

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jar
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Message 490 of 518 (823356)
11-09-2017 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 486 by starman
11-09-2017 12:24 PM


Re: Starman fails
starman writes:
Gen 2 is after the fact. After it was all done, the events it revisits are not an order. Period.
It is crystal clear that you are as ignorant of the Bible and Bible history as you are or reality. Genesis 2&3 is a much older story that the fable found in Genesis 1 and was written hundreds or even thousands of years before Genesis 1.

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jar
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Message 500 of 518 (823397)
11-09-2017 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 494 by starman
11-09-2017 3:32 PM


Re: most of us are neither utterly ignorant or utterly dishonest
LOL
Sorry but until you provide evidence that the Bible lied and the Biblical Flood happened 70,000,000 years ago or that humans existed or in fact ANY of the kinds listed in the Bile existed 70,000,000 million years ago then once again, only we have the evidence and we win.

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 501 of 518 (823398)
11-09-2017 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 497 by starman
11-09-2017 3:35 PM


Re: Starman fails
starman writes:
Gen 2 is after the fact, and beside the fact of the topic. Gong!
Once again, you are simply showing your ignorance of the Bible.
Bishop Simms writes:
In the Bible the intermingling of why and how is evident, especially in the opening chapters of Genesis. There the majestic statements of God's action, its value and the place of humanity in it, use an orderly and sequential statement of method. The why of the divine work is carried in a primitive description of how the work was done.
But even here the distinction between religion and science is clear. In Genesis there is not one creation statement but two. They agree as to why and who, but are quite different as to how and when. The statements are set forth in tandem, chapter one of Genesis using one description of method and chapter two another. According to the first, humanity was created, male and female, after the creation of plants and animals. According to the second, man was created first, then the trees, the animals and finally the woman and not from the earth as in the first account, but from the rib of the man. Textual research shows that these two accounts are from two distinct eras, the first later in history, the second earlier.
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Once again, we have the evidence and so we win.

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