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Author Topic:   Evidence of the flood
edge
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Message 873 of 899 (820495)
09-21-2017 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 871 by Phat
09-21-2017 10:55 AM


Re: Learning How Others Think
She likely believes that God knows more than secular science and certainly more than any atheist or leftist.
Then she speaks for God?
It is curious how this god does as YEC wishes.

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edge
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Message 877 of 899 (820513)
09-21-2017 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 876 by Faith
09-21-2017 3:27 PM


Re: Learning How Others Think
I doubt I felt I "couldn't be wrong" about the map, I simply read it the way I read it as anyone would do, until I became aware of lines I hadn't been able to see before.
In that case, were I you, I'd take it as a sign that I should dial back my certainty a few notches.
Edited by edge, : No reason given.

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edge
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Message 880 of 899 (820517)
09-21-2017 10:45 PM
Reply to: Message 878 by Faith
09-21-2017 10:27 PM


Re: Learning How Others Think
I don't recall any certainty, just interpreting the map according to what I saw.
I'm not talking about just the map, I mean practically every post that you write. For instance does this statement project any certainty?
What's physically impossible is the absurd idea that the GU is the root of a former mountain range that grew up and then eroded down to flatness before the strata started building above it.
Or this statement:
Or that strata would lay themselves down in a mounded form a mile deep. Or that the Colorado River cut the Grand Canyon.
Or this one:
Or that a whole scenario of a "time period" could have existed where there now is only a vast flat slab of sedimentary rock, let alone dozens of them.
I'd say that they were submitted by someone with little knowledge, less tolarance and a huge dose of certainty.

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edge
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Message 885 of 899 (820569)
09-22-2017 10:24 PM
Reply to: Message 881 by Faith
09-21-2017 10:57 PM


Re: Learning How Others Think
Yes I AM certain about those things, that's quite true.
You couldn't possibly be wrong?
When did you realize that you are infallible?

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edge
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Message 889 of 899 (820591)
09-23-2017 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 888 by Phat
09-23-2017 2:23 PM


Re: EvC goes bonkers again
This frames the whole controversy over God lying versus mans recording of scripture. jar seems to always claim that God lied and the serpent told the truth, which in my mind is arguably blasphemous. Many obvious questions arise between Biblical Literalists and scholarly (secular) literalists over this.
(snip)...
I think you are missing the point. I believe that jar is making use of a strawman argument as a rhetorical tool to make a point.
The point is that IF YEC is correct, then it is necessry for God to be a liar. Jar goes further in saying that if the universe is also the work of God, it disagrees with the Bible, so which do you believe? One of the two must be fallacious.
In effect, YEC belief CAUSES God to be a liar. It is a logical conclusion.
Consequently, it is possible to judge Faith (and other militant adherents to YEC) as blasphemous.
The only way out of this is to deny the evidence provided in the works of God.
Frankly, I don't think jar cares a hoot about whether God is a liar or not. The point is that YECs have some explaining to do.
ABE: On the other hand, I think that the earth may be a bit tricky, but I do not think that it lies.
Edited by edge, : No reason given.

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