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Author Topic:   True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing
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Message 4 of 154 (818379)
08-27-2017 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Porkncheese
08-27-2017 9:49 AM


Pnc writes:
A wise man once said "True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing"
Only a fool would say such a thing. I know I just wrote "Only a fool would say such a thing".
Pnc writes:
Evolutionists on the other hand seem to have just created this theory without conclusive evidence.
Again, while there is not conclusive evidence there certainly is overwhelming evidence and Science, unlike Math, does not deal in absolutes. Conclusions are held tentatively until there is overwhelming evidence that the conclusions are false.
Pnc writes:
Their only objective seems to be to discredit religion.
That of course is also simply false. In fact most major religions acknowledge the fact of evolution and that the Theory of Evolution is currently the only explanation for the variety of life seen today and in the past.
Pnc writes:
When you see Richard Dawkins admitting that intelligent design is possible then you have to ask yourself. Why did you go on such a hate campaign against all religions when you cannot even explain the begining of life and you actually admit that intelligent design is possible
Again, that is simply an absurd post is about a Brazillion different ways.
There is no hate campaign related to evolutionists against religion. I and many others here are religious and in fact Christians.
There is no evidence of design in living things; particularly of intelligent design.
There is no evidence of the existence of any designer.
Science should not support positions for which there is absolutely no evidence.
While certain things may be possible, unless and until there is some evidence that such things even exist they cannot actually be included or considered to be science.

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Message 6 of 154 (818382)
08-27-2017 7:44 PM
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08-27-2017 6:49 PM


Correct. And another example of what people can know. We can know that there is no record of Socrates ever claiming that the one thing he did know was that he knew nothing.
But it was another fun thing for Middle Schoolers to argue over on cold fall evenings.

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Message 10 of 154 (818399)
08-28-2017 7:20 AM
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08-28-2017 12:29 AM


Re: Inconclusive not absolute
NewKid writes:
1. No one knows eveything which some people seem to deny
No one here is making such a claim.
NewKid writes:
2. The evidence used is inconclusive and not absolute which most people have a really hard time accepting. And something being taught as fact in public schools should be absolute and conclusive like F=ma.
Again, what is being taught as fact is the fact that evolution happened and the fact that the Theory of Evolution is so far the only explanation that has been presented.

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Message 14 of 154 (818416)
08-28-2017 9:02 AM
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08-28-2017 8:48 AM


Re: Inconclusive not absolute
What so many of the anti-science cult seem not able or willing to understand is that science advances by learning what it knows is wrong. It is those "I certainly didn't think that would happen" moments when science makes a great leap forward in its body of knowledge.
You can be wrong in science but you cannot be a heretic in science. Heresy is a condition found only in religion.

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Message 75 of 154 (818747)
09-01-2017 8:27 PM
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09-01-2017 6:11 PM


Re: ToE admits defeat
You have provided a perfect example of why you should never be considered or hired for any position that requires evidence based decision making, honesty or critical thinking.
In other words, a worthless loser who should be pitied and left at the kiddie table.

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Message 77 of 154 (818749)
09-01-2017 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by Porkncheese
09-01-2017 8:42 PM


Re: The truth is hard for some to swallow
And so you reinforce what was already obvious. You really are worthless and unable to think. Very enlightening. You will of course never be an engineer, never be much of anything, and certainly never learn anything.
This is not ridicule but rather a simple statement of fact. Consider a career in cutting lawns or trash pickup. That would certainly show you have some value.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin there is no 0 in consider.

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Message 90 of 154 (818781)
09-02-2017 4:49 PM
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09-02-2017 4:43 PM


Re: searchable database
You have gotten no abuse or lies from this site.
Understand that and it may be your first step.

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Message 93 of 154 (818784)
09-02-2017 4:56 PM
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09-02-2017 4:51 PM


Re: searchable database
You need to learn the difference between ridicule and a dope slap.
The people here are trying to help you but first they need to get your attention.

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jar
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Message 96 of 154 (818787)
09-02-2017 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by Porkncheese
09-02-2017 4:58 PM


Re: searchable database
Pnc writes:
to arrogant to concede anything... was i not abused???
No, you were not abused.
It remains to be seen if you are too arrogant to learn anything.
But only you can cure your ignorance; we can help you but only you can do the work. The first step is to learn to actually listen and to0 comprehend what you are being told.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin there is no 0 in to

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jar
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Message 104 of 154 (818797)
09-02-2017 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Porkncheese
09-02-2017 5:29 PM


Re: ok guys i believe everything
Belief is not needed or even wanted. No one has asked you to believe anything except the fact that evidence as presented actually exists. There are fossils. No belief is needed. You can even go examine the fossils your self once you exhibit some indication you actually know enough to understand what you see, comprehend what you are told and are capable of listening to instructions.
You are not at that stage yet.
You are at the stage where you can be allowed to actually look up catalogs of the fossils.
Google "Fossil Collections" and it will give you a list of where many fossils are being kept.
BUT, first you should try to learn what Science is and what Science does.
Your not at that stage yet either.

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