The TRVE history of the Flood...

SO silly. The evidence for the Flood is nothing short of in-your-face. The strata, the fossils. Good grief, how obvious can you get? And the Old Earth scenario is simply wacko and impossible. The evidence there is little more than reading tea leaves -- scattered contents of the strata imagined into whole fantastic scenarios.

Let's look at some more difficulties in the sorting of the fossils.
Each of the major geological epochs is further subdivided. For instance, Permian has stages called Rhaelian, Norian, Carnian, Ladinian, Anisian, Olenakian, and Induan. From Cambrian to Cenozoic there are about 100 stages.Each of these is defined by the appearance or disappearance of specific fossils. The details can be seen in Wikipedia, where it is easy to click forward or back from one stage to the next. I have checked through many of them and the majority were worked out in 1850 to 1870.So as long ago as that it was realised that the fossils were in a distinct order, consistent around the globe. The well nigh impossible problem of the Flood explaining the fossil order has got 10 times harder.But wait, there is more!

The dating issue convincingly shows that your beliefs are wrong.You have nothing but your beliefs to counter multiple forms of dating that all point to the same thing.This is the problem of evidence vs. biblical belief: in other words, science vs. anti-science. Once again you come down on the side of anti-science.

The layers themselves and their fossil contents, no matter how sorted, speak of a worldwide water event. That and the obvious impossibility of a slab of rock that covers thousands of square miles ever representing a period of long ages in which anything lived, that's enough evidence to make all the details irrelevant.

Second thought: Rather than such impressive regularity of the appearance of particular fossils in particular layers being any kind of support for the ToE, it suggests something mechanical about their deposition. Why should evolution produce particular generations of any creature in such an orderly fashion? That doesn't happen in real time, why should it have happened over the time span of the Geological Time Scale?However, as I've many times pointed out, the sorting does not imply anything about what preceded or followed genetically in a particular biological line. They are sorted according to type, or morphology, but it's nothing but assumption that those in higher layers more recently evolved from those in lower layers. It could easily be the reverse, and in the Flood scenario they would all have been contemporaneous, subspecies, cousins etc.

Except that when dated those layers and their fossil contents are separated by millions or hundreds of millions of years.That's why you have to dismiss the dating issue (based on belief, not on evidence). The dating shows that your global flood scenario during historic times could not have occurred.Edited by Coyote, : spelling

Yes, the dating data is obviously wrong. The facts as I've presented them trump all that.

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The layers themselves and their fossil contents, no matter how sorted, speak of a worldwide water event.

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Only in the sense that they could not possibly be created by a single short-term worldwide water event. Which has been shown again and again.(And even making that claim is contrary to your assertions that we can't know what the Flood would do and that it is impossible to work out what happened in the past through physical evidence)

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That and the obvious impossibility of a slab of rock that covers thousands of square miles ever representing a period of long ages in which anything lived,

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Oh this is your silly strawman about the "fact" that nothing can live in a depositional environment - despite all the creatures living in depositions environments today ?

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...that's enough evidence to make all the details irrelevant.

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Not quite. The fact that your "evidence" points against the Flood is damning, of course. However fairness requires us to go further before rejecting the Flood altogether.

Also, another thing I've pointed out many times, in real time, the time we live in, species (subspecies) are created over mere hundreds of years. Imputing millions to such ordinary phenomena isn't just overkill, it's another impossibility. You not only don't need millions of years to make small changes such as are seen in the Geological record from layer to layer, the fact that you lose "information" / genetic diversity in the process of producing such changes means nothing could have evolved beyond the Kind anyway.

Um, nothing could have lived in a "depositional environment" that became a rock in a stack of rocks. Think think think thinkity think.

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Second thought: Rather than such impressive regularity of the appearance of particular fossils in particular layers being any kind of support for the ToE, it suggests something mechanical about their deposition.

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The big problem for that idea is that the sorting does not correlate with any properties that would support mechanical sorting.

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Why should evolution produce particular generations of any creature in such an orderly fashion? That doesn't happen in real time, why should it have happened over the time span of the Geological Time Scale

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It seems rather obvious to me. Descendants must live after their ancestors. Thus evolution predicts a temporal order related to the taxonomic tree of life. And naturally this temporal order must show up in the fossil record if it is a long-term history of life on Earth.

Oh, and show me those "depositional environments" on which things are living today that are composed of just one particular sediment without mixture, as so many of the strata are, and flat as a pancake too, just as the strata are. And you could also point out the singularity of the living things living there as well, since what we get in the strata are a select bunch of organisms, a bunch of trilobites, a bunch of dinosaurs and whatnot, rather the range of living things we see today. Of course the whole range of living things existed before the Flood too, and died in that Flood and their corpses got sorted and buried in particular layers.

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Um, nothing could have lived in a "depositional environment" that became a rock in a stack of rocks. Think think think thinkity think.

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Go on explain it to me. Or maybe you should try thinking about it first.

There have been some comments while I was preparing my third message, which seems to have disappeared into the ether, so I will try again.Each of the 100 stages is further subdivided into two or more substages, again determined by fossil order. So this further multiplies the Floodist difficulty, still not being explained by Faith.But wait, there is more.As indicated by others, scattered through the fossil layers are igneous layers dateable by RM dating. These dates are consistent with the fossil order. As I said in an earlier post, one of the supporting evidences for the accuracy of Rm dating is the way the ages of seamounts in a chain increase in tandem with the expected rate of tectonic plate movement over a hot spot. So the Flood has to sort the Isotopes as well as fossils in the correct order.How much more does that increase the Floodist's problem?But wait, there is more!Or rather it is what is not there.
A single though large eruption of Toba in Indonesia put a discernible ash layer in a lake in Africa. A recent Flood requires a massive amount of volcanism in a short time, which managed to leave no relevant ash layer in the ice, land or sea cores.I think the degree of difficulty for the Flood to explain things has been raised to impossible.

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Oh, and show me those "depositional environments" on which things are living today that are composed of just one particular sediment without mixture, as so many of the strata are, and flat as a pancake too, just as the strata are.

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Walther's law should help you answer that. If you understood why the sequences associated with transgressions and regressions are associated with those events.Deserts are pretty flat. River deltas, too.

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nd you could also point out the singularity of the living things living there as well, since what we get in the strata are a select bunch of organisms, a bunch of trilobites, a bunch of dinosaurs and whatnot, rather the range of living things we see today.

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If you can find trilobites living alongside non-avian dinosaurs today I'd like to see it. However your point is false. At most locations a whole range of different life forms are found. E.g. At one of my favourite sites - when I was young - I found plentiful remains of sea urchins, crinoids, assorted bivalves and other molluscs.