A Believers Critique Of The Humanist Manifesto

ringo writes:I know what the fundies think. The point is that they're wrong.
It's the fundies who will follow the AntiChrist while the rest of the world gets more secular. Fundies are just itching for somebody like Ronald Reagan to take us back to the "good old days". THAT is the AntiChrist, who offers the (fundy) world easy solutions to their problems.

Phat writes:As you know, conservative Christians warn this to be an omen of a false global religion.

Phat writes:As you know, conservative Christians warn this to be an omen of a false global religion.

Phat,August 30, 2016 writes:I don't plan to vote for Trump. He won't get elected.
As for the yearning for the good old days, I will admit that this may be a problem for many so-called Biblical Christians. Jesus would have no problem suffering...but we do.

Faith writes:I'm also not sure what to expect but more and more Christians are expecting some kind of worldwide political manifestation soon that is thought of as a Final Act before Jesus returns. But it's not a nonreligious system, it's a religion that will present itself as Christianity though also incorporating most of the religions of the world, and most of the world will consider it to be Christianity. The whole idea of an Antichrist doesn't make sense unless he puts himself in the place of Christ and heads up a religion in Christ's name. (My favorite for the position is the Pope.)

article writes:In a rare move, major religious leaders ― from Pope Francis to the Dalai Lama ― issued a joint appeal Wednesday asking people to follow a simple bit of advice: Make friends with people of other faiths.Our advice is to make friends to followers of all religions, Ayatollah Sayyid Fadhel Al-Milani, one of the U.K.’s most senior Shia Muslim clerics, said in a video recording.Personal contact, personal friendship, then we can exchange a deeper level of experience, the Dalai Lama said.

jar writes:Why should the beliefs of conservative Christians be anything but comedic relief?

ringo writes:Conservative Christians will grasp at every straw to justify their paranoia.

Phat writes:Critics would say that the liberal Christians will embrace the fake new world religion. Comments?

Phat writes:Aren't YOU a Christian? and now that I think of it...aren't you conservative also?

ringo writes:"The millennium" has been any minute now for more than a millennium. Two millennia from now, when Botswana is the world superpower, conservative Christians will call it a fulfillment of prophecy.

2 Peter 3:3-7 writes:First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

The importance of religion is declining and the existing religions are fragmenting.

Phat writes:What I suggest is that if it DID happen, and IF the GOD I market were real, you likely would defiantly refuse Him even to the point of death...

Phat writes:And yet the importance of relationship is at an all time high.

ringo writes:You have not demonstrated that your religion includes any "relationship" with God.

Phat writes:I am not marketing Leprechauns, here.

Phat writes:How would such a relationship be demonstrated?

Phat writes:Otherwise, we have a huge traffic jam behind a lack of evidence.

Phat writes:My point is the God I market won't give you the evidence.

Phat writes:I assert that you use the lack of evidence as a sticking point and won't step into belief.

How is your relationship with God different from my relationship with long John Silver?

ringo writes:When I'm buying a car if it won't run that's a sticking point. Yes.

Phat writes:What I suggest is that if it DID happen, and IF the GOD I market were real, you likely would defiantly refuse Him even to the point of death...

ringo writes:Why do you keep saying that? How many times do I have to tell you it isn't true?

phat writes:My point is the God I market won't give you the evidence.

ringo writes:And I'm not buyin' it.