The TRVE history of the Flood...

You obviously haven't been reading all of the posts on this and other threads. Every argument you (all) make has been refuted. Some of us have gone to great lengths to explain the facts and the reasoning that go behind mainstream science. You simply deny the facts.And yes, I do not study Genesis, because it is a story, not evidence. Of course he didn't study Genesis, at least not for his science. He studied the actual physical evidence. You should try it.

And yet, we are the ones who are 'speechless' about the topic.We are looking at a particularly hard case here. Even by CARM standards.

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Darwin: "It is impossible to reflect upon the changed state of the American continent without the deepest astonishment. Formerly it must have swarmed with great monsters, now we find mere pygmies, compared with the antecedent, allied races."

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David: (Exactly as the water layer above the Earth caused a green house effect below and moderated temperatures causing Garden of Eden conditions and an explosion of plant and animal life before the Flood. SEE Worldwide Flood and Noah's Ark)

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So, David, tell us more about this "water layer". Where was it 'above the earth', and how thick was it? How did it remain suspended in the sky? How did it admit light to the surface of the earth? What was the level of greenhouse gases at the time and how much was due to water? What caused it to collapse and where did the water go afterward?Your solutions create more impossible situations.

Lets get back to the topic, where did the waters of the Flood go ?Did the sun dry them up through evaporation, NOThey took about 14 months, or so to receed downward.Remember Mount Ararat, where Noah landed on is extremely high (Do an internet search), so where did the waters of the Flood go.Thats part of the DaVinci question, the shells on the mountain top question, and a Biblical geological explanation concerning the TRUE HISTORY of the WORLDWIDE FLOOD.Do I have to look it up for you, because evolutionists dont have access to GOOGLE.... I quess so, they do hate research...Here it tisfountains of the DEEPGenesis 7
11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.DaVinci should have studied some bible and should have known about the foundations of the deep, especially seeing he *** came *** **** ****.The waters receeded back from where they came from.......the division of the continents came afterwards with the continental shifts of Peleg.....Now you know the true history of the Flood, and why DaVinci made his mistake and why shells are on the tops of mountains, and why evolutionists are so afraid of study and research

Sure. Okay, please show us where the 'fountains of the deep' were and what is your evidence for them? Just saying that they existed is not evidence.How was the water stored in the earth? Why did it suddenly erupt to the surface? And exactly where is that?What is your evidence for such a location? Actually, we only know your nice story. You don't really have anything to back it up.

Hi Davidjay,Please take problems with moderation to the Report Discussion Problems Here 4.0 thread, not your signature. I have deleted your signature.

I was just going by the rules, ... because there are no language rules HERE as you mentioned.. and it shouldnt have offended anyone.During my suspension, I did read about DaVinci and his mistake in not knowing where the flood waters went...Its on this thread, that has now been closed and is in summation mode..A Creationist Sues the Grand Canyon for Religious DiscriminationThe flood waters receeding created the Grand Canyon etc etc etc etc etc etc and some more etc'sEdited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

See Trilobites, Mountains and Marine Deposits - Evidence of a flood? ... thinking this is due to a WWFlood is facile ignorance of the total geological database.Enjoy

I would suggest that it is 'ignorant' to discount, the fountains of the deep. For the flood came from down below not just the water layer above the EARTH, and so logically and biblically it stated, that the Flood waters receeded downward, back into the depths of the Earth.You have never been there and can not say definitely this is not true, all you can say, is you dont know....and then deny deny DENY.Anyway, the floods waters receeding is logical and reasonable and is seen in the Earths crust and the geology of the designed landscape.Yikes, we must start a thread on the geological exactness of the designs of the Earths, cities, rivers, continents etc...Its proveable, its there for those that seek.You see DESIGN is not hidden but searchable..... all evolutionists can do is deny deny deny...Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

I would suggest that the complete lack of evidence for such fountains; and the lack of a mechanism for either the venting or the repacking of water back into the crust preclude such fountains. These are unsupported assertions. Where is your evidence? Are you sure about this? Not really. We can say that there is evidence for what we think is going on.You, on the other hand, have nothing but fables. There is nowhere for the waters to recede to. I'm not sure that you would want to do that. Then please do so. The products of natural, KNOWN processes are also 'searchable'. The denial is yours. Edited by edge, : No reason given.

As mentioned when discussing the geological evidence for the flood, we would have to first account for the massive amount of water that covered the Earth.The biblical record states that there was a layer of water (or vapor) above the Earths surface in Genesis.Read and study Genesis 1, written by Moses who talked face to face with the Lord of Creation.Does this make sense, Yes, early man after Adam lived a LONG TIME compared to after the flood.Hence this vapor or water layer could have easily shielded the Suns damagaing aging rays, in allowing mankind to live sooooo long.SEE ForeFathersGraphicSo did this upper water layer descend in 40 days and nights of rain, lifting Noahs Ark up, and eventually covering all the Earth and mountains worldwide (depositing shells on tops of mountains as has been observed) yes, very possible, probable and rational...But thats way too little rain water to explain such a height of water upward....and hence as mentioned in Genesis, the Lord opened up the water from beneath the firmament, from the depths, or FOUNTAINS OF THE DEEP as well.This can provide sufficient water to cover the whole Earth, and then when it receeded it coused the plains and deltas, and Grand Canyon etc... that we see today.It went back into the depths.... and Noahs ARK descended on to Mount Aratrat where it has been rediscovered....Yet after the flood, the continents were divided in the days of Peleg.... (but we aren;t allowed to discuss that..)Now we know.... the geological record as in the GEOLOGICAL RECORD BOOK.

No it doesn't. The sun, moon and stars were visible.

Only if you presuppose that there ever was that much water. Does the biblical record provide a mechanism by which to suspend that much water in the air or space or whatever? And you have some hard evidence to this effect? But I suppose it wouldn't shield the helpful rays of the sun, right? Not really since the shells are not on the mountain but within the very rocks that make up the mountain. Tell us more about these 'fountains of the deep'. Who observed them? Were were they? What did they look like and where can we see them today? If you say so.Could you provide the calculations to show this? How much water erupted from the fountains? How high did the waters rise? Sure, it made nice meandering rivers. Tell us more about this erosion. What kind of material did it erode and where did it come from? Why do we see different drainage patterns all over the world? That's s simplistic explanation. What depths are you talking about? Did it move into rocks? Please document this. I haven't heard of such. Who was Peleg and why did the continents suddenly decide to part their ways? How did they move and how fast. There is no record of tumultuous earth movements that I know of in any human record that would move entire continents thousands of miles. Did no one notice? Whatever your religion tells you not to do, I guess. I know of no such "Geological Record Book". Can you please provide the Amazon reference page? I'd love to read the reviews.Just as an aside, how did you gain all of this knowledge about geology?

The Book is called the Bible, or more specifically the words written by the Lord, or His men or women, or prophets..I think with that information you can discern the layers of truth within and on top of its superficial reading. Seek and ye shall find.(I am not allowed to start a topic on Geographic Design however, or sex, or anything, so would have to do it here...even though that would be off topic, even though this is actually my topic...)

Edge, do consider writing more than one liners. Learn to explain yourself, in more than one line retorts.. Thanks hoping you do better in the future.