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Author | Topic: Creation lines in the Hindu Rig Veda plus Zoroastrian texts teach evolution(?). | |||||||||||||||||||||||
LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
quote: translation from Origins of the universe - Religion and science - GCSE Religious Studies Revision - BBC Bitesize Phat raised the issue of eastern religions like Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, and their ancestor sources possibly having something to do with Biblical creation ideas. The Hindu Rig Veda is interesting because it is of an undisputed pre-1000 BCE date. Historians seem to see the Indian subcontinent beliefs/texts as being fairly far removed from the Middle East, for reasons I can't understand. There seems to be a sluggishness among historians in recognizing the contributions India made to the Biblical belief system. It is a clear bias IMO. (perhaps the dearth of written records in the archaeological record might have something to do with it, plus the inability to read/decipher so much of what has been discovered) I won't have much to say on this topic (honestly), but any thoughts? EDIT I found something interesting. A Zoroastrian scientific text from around 900 C.E. http://www.avesta.org/denkard/dk4.html#v46See book 4 verse 46 Here is the quote
quote: Here is the Iranica article on this textD‘NKARD — Encyclopaedia Iranica quote: Interesting and I wish we have more documents (for sure). Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given. Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.
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Thread copied here from the Creation lines in the Hindu Rig Veda plus Zoroastrian texts teach evolution(?). thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
This City Journal article is spirited with all sorts of good info and strange happenings.
The Indian Century?: Education, entrepreneurialism, and democratic institutions bode well for the country’s futurebut profound challenges remain. | City Journal In it is these paragraphs
quote: I wish we all knew enough about India. We seem to have gotten much from the land and the people. Lets hope that the economic growth happening, in what will be the world's largest nation in 10 or so years, will result in a worldwide awakening that hopefully can lead to some serious archaeological digs (funding and funding alone will bring it about) and textual research. India will be about 18% of the world's population by around 2030. There are already 3.6 million people (as of May 2013) from India in this country, and it seems poised to be close to 4.5-5 million by 2020 (I think). I have a strange feeling that Christians will learn a lot more about their religion from a revived India than they ever have been taught by their preachers. Light will come from the East just like the Magi (mistranslated "wise men" and popularly thought to be "THREE wise men" due to the 3 presents these - if correctly translated - "ZOROASTRIAN PRIESTS" brought) did 2000 years ago (Matthew 2), and Jesus valued light over darkness just as the Zoroastrian texts instructed.
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
Is there finally going to be renewed excavations (after so long)?
quote: This king lead a renaissance in Sumerian texts (even conducted archaeology to find older texts!) 4000 years ago. Want to learn more from the past? "Let the King of Lagash deal with him" (I remember the Pink Panther movie and the fictional country Lugash) Something cool could be coming. Check out this convention.http://www.newsworks.org/...-gather-in-philly-with-a-mission The cuneiform scholars are buzzing again. Something is in the air for some good discoveries over the next decade. What does this have to do with India and Iran? Well, Elamite (in Iran) texts from 5000 years ago can't be deciphered for one and early Indus scripts (in modern day Pakistan, which was historically "India") from 5000 years ago exist too. Can't be read. The second issue is that the ancient Sumerians could very well have come from India over 5000 years ago, but not too long before. The third issue is that there were trade relations, to some extent, with India (for sure).http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...ry-woolley-archaeology I predict something fruitful coming from Mesopotamia, and it might even touch on ancient Indian issues.
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Dredge Member Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
LamarkNewAge writes:
How do you know it wasn't the other way around - ie, the contributions the Bible made to the Indian belief system?
the contributions India made to the Biblical belief system
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LamarkNewAge Member (Idle past 738 days) Posts: 2236 Joined: |
The concept of heaven and hell with the multiple levels is perhaps the strongest clue.
Hindu texts had concepts, that later were prominent in apocalyptic Judaism and Christianity, that were in the oldest Hindu texts from the start. Consider the Yama Yima issue and the Hellhound. Consider the multiple levels of hell Consider the multiple heavens. Historians say that the hellhound was a common Indo European concept, but I think the Hindus had it first then ( perhaps through the Hurrians ) took it to Greece. Regardless, the concept ( from multiple points of entry ) made it into Judaism and especially the Book of Enoch. Greek concepts (from India, Iran, Hurrians, etc. originally ), Iranian concepts, direct Hindu concepts made their way into 2nd Temple Judaism. I don't see the initial Israelite beliefs having many later features such as the multiple heavens and multiple levels of hell. Infact not much evidence of the concept in a singular stage. (just to clarify, the hellhound isn't in biblical beliefs, but the hound went to Greece along with all the other features of hell, plus hell itself, which the oldest Hindu texts have ) Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.
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