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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Poe's Law: Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article. And David's posts are so off the wall they makes detecting a Poe all but impossible. Spam in, diarrhea out. See Message 65 for example. The first paragraph is the hook, then the trolling starts, followed by the diarrhea ... Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : exampleby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Spiritality is testable, as I mentioned. Jesus is testable as I mentioned, the invisable can be tested. And evolution can not be tested, only theorised. You can try to make new artistic graphs, and suggest bone A fits into Bone B, but suggestions and quesses are not proofs. It appears that you don't know what "testable" means in the scientific context, because in the context of science both these statements are false. The only one being fooled by your statements is you. You lose again. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : .by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
This just goes to page 15 on that thread. People can set page preferences for the number of messages on a page, and thus they would get different results from your preferences. A better way to refer to a message is to use the grey number in the header, and the message header in question has:
Message 215 of 286 (807084) This grey number is a unique identifier for that particular message that can be used as follows: type [mid=807084] and it becomes: Message 215 PS) I apologise sort of to all those that I may have referred to as bat people, when apparrently, bats are our cousins and nephews and not our forefathers. The wierd branching threw me off and your explanations and family tree was way to far fetched for me. We have a winner, you learned something. You may not fully accept it (yet), but you learned what the argument is and corrected your previous misunderstanding. The cognitive dissonance you were experiencing has been resolved, it seems.
Evolutionists usually say I misunderstand and that only evolutionists understand evolution. But isn;t Coragyp saying that Eurachonta is our ancestor... but its long extinct and probably has no verification in bones opr fossils, but it was our ancestor.. according to the theory of evolution. Not just bones and fossils, but also by DNA analysis. Just as DNA analysis can show paternity and descent in living people, comparing DNA between siblings and someone not closely related shows more in common between the siblings than between either one and the outgroup person. This type analysis is also done between species and is another way to check\determine our tree of ancestry for species:
quote: quote: quote: Also see Classificationand Cladogram So where does Euarchonta fit into this scheme of things?
quote: Euarchonta is a subgroup of Euarchontoglires, and hence a subgroup of Boreoeutheria, so recent analysis (March and April 2017) has put our common ancestor (Boreoeutheria) with bats even further back in time. Revealed by genetic testing rather than bones and fossils (which are in short supply at this point). I find these explorations into scientific details interesting and exciting, as I am always learning new tidbits along the way, and that is one of the reasons I keep coming back to the forum -- to find new truths that science has revealed. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : .by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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So I reread the Scientific American Article, Introducing the Treeshrews: They Don't All Live in Trees and They Aren't Close to Shrews, and nowhere in the article did it say that tree shrews were ancestral to primates (and hence to people), so Davidjay's continued assertion to this effect is making the same mistake he made with bats. It's the same pattern of claim and insinuation without any apparent acceptance of corrections.
Treeshrews were suppose to be our primate ancestor, not a cousin or a brother, but a forefather.... all four of you said it, and finally answered what evolution believes in, as our common ancestor. This statement is clearly false, and was never said by the article he refers to (but doesn't quote) nor any post in any of these threads. Repeating falsehoods aggressively and rejecting correct information is not debate. What the article says about the descent of tree shrews:
quote: It is hard to see how anyone doing even a cursory reading of the article could come to the conclusion that it says treeshrews are ancestral to humans, particularly when that picture show a clear and unambiguous cladogram with primates and Scandentia evolving separately from their Euarconta common ancestor. Euarconta is neither Primate nor Scandentia, but ancestral to both. Only a loser would try to beat people over the head with demonstrably false information. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
So this mysterious non existant clade of Euarchonta... is suppose to be our ancestor....... No. Euarchonta contains over 400 living species. It is not extinct. Nor is it "supposed to be our ancestor". He's talking about the first, parent population common ancestor to all currently living descendants, and apparently still doesn't understand how clades work. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Quote? So he's doing the same thing he did with bats, making false assertions about what people are telling him. Tree shrews and humans share a common ancestor that was neither human nor tree shrew, just the oldest (parent) population of the clade Euarchonta. Even the article he posted shows the cladogram with this picture in it (see Windsor castle):
It is hard to see how anyone doing even a cursory reading of the article could come to the conclusion that it says treeshrews are ancestral to humans, particularly when that picture show a clear and unambiguous cladogram with primates and Scandentia evolving separately from their Euarcontan common ancestor. The oldest (parent) population of the clade Euarchonta is neither Primate nor Scandentia, but ancestral to both. Only a loser would try to beat people over the head with demonstrably false information. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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You've posted exactly the same thing on FIVE threads (so far anyway), which is spamming and a troll trait.
This one
Evolution is a racist doctrine Message 347 A good summary of so called human evolution. Message 127 The story of Bones and Dogs and Humans Message 8 and Debunking the Evolutionary God of 'Selection' Message 228 See A good summary of so called human evolution. Message 131 for reply Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Science is independent of scientists:
That's why truths\facts\reality will be revealed through science ... Enjoy Excerpted from Dark Science #76 – The Epistemological Impasse – Dresden Codakby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Perhaps you might want to read an old thread here: At first I thought you were going to revive a thread of one of our deceased members, robinrohan
Comments on EvC Forum: A Play (although that was about drinking stuff a little more intoxicating than coffee).
the bluegenes Challenge (bluegenes and RAZD only), that old humorous discussion revolving around the fact that religion cannot be evaluated scientifically, because it can not be proven nor disproven, it cannot be tested. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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What you have said that is relevant to the discussion is ...
Is a lot of hot air signifying nothing. Assertions are not evidence, opinion is not evidence, ego is not evidence. Lies are not evidence. Trolling is not debate. When you have something of substance to say post it and then we will see. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
On topic, and a complete answer. No, off topic and completely irrelevant. This thread is about Science and the truths that are revealed by the scientific method, not about any other revealed truths (especially those of questionable veracity).
And NO, thats not spamming, ... And YES, it is spamming - things you have repeated in virtually every post of yours on every thread you have infected regardless of the topic of the thread is spamming. Once again the content you have posted that is related to the topic is the sound of one hand clapping in a secluded wood. There is more scientific evidence in the frass of ants in Antarctica than in your posts. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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