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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2588 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Bacause no one could respond to the delusion of Continental Drift inch by inch versus continental separation after the Floof, we shall deem it confirmed and a principle to be noted and hyperlinked to as a POST FLOOD geological truth.
That should get your layers grinding .... SEE EarthDividedindaysofPeleg In His Geological Service David Or we could start a separate topic on the subject of tetonic plate movement Past Present and Future Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2365 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Since you're preaching in unsupported links, here's one back at you:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/...again-taken-for-graniteReligious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2365 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Six "Flood" Arguments Creationists Can't Answer
Six "Flood" Arguments Creationists Can't Answer | National Center for Science Education Pseudoscience differs from science in several fundamental ways but most notably in its attitude toward hypothesis testing. In science, hypotheses are ideas proposed to explain the facts, and they're not considered much good unless they can survive rigorous tests. In pseudoscience, hypotheses are erected as defenses against the facts. Pseudoscientists frequently offer hypotheses flatly contradicted by well-known facts which can be ignored only by well-trained minds. Therefore, to demonstrate that creationists are pseudoscientists, one need only carry some creationist hypotheses about Noah's flood to their logical conclusions. The following six arguments will do just that, giving a sampling of the major difficulties in creationist "flood geology." Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined:
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The fact that people ignore your delusions doesn't actually confirm them. Obviously you're talking shit, obviously we all know it, and obviously people are beginning to think that you're too obdurately stupid to be worth talking to.
If you want a response to each of your posts, let me help you with that. Print this out.
Hang it over your desk, and every time you dribble out some of your fatuous nonsense, look up and read it.
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2588 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Compose your own words, rather than relying on others lack of answers
A hyperlink fight is not a debate. Know the subject matter yourself Coyote before posting..... for its only then you can explain it.Study darn ya, study. Quite relying on others.... Continental Drift is the subject, it is CONFIRMED unless someone can state other wise...STAY ON TOPIC Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2365 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
A hyperlink fight is not a debate. My link was a response to your links in Message 451. Or did you forget that you are the one "fighting with hyperlinks."Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2365 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Continental Drift is the subject The title of the thread is "The TRVE history of the Flood..." I started the thread. It is not up to you to change it when convenient.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2365 days) Posts: 6117 Joined:
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A hyperlink fight is not a debate. What if God Threw a Flood and No One Came? What if God Threw a Flood and No One Came? | Cognitive Discopants The folks over at Answers in Genesis recently tackled the question, When exactly was the Flood?. After consulting his Bible and with a little help from Bishop James Ussher, David Wright of AiG provides the answer: Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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CRR Member (Idle past 2502 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined: |
When losing a debate shout louder.
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CRR Member (Idle past 2502 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined: |
An interesting article, Coyote. Out of those six, which do you think is the best, the strongest, the most unanswerable?
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CRR Member (Idle past 2502 days) Posts: 579 From: Australia Joined: |
What if God Threw a Flood and No One Came? He did; and only 8 people came.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2365 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
An interesting article, Coyote. Out of those six, which do you think is the best, the strongest, the most unanswerable? I'm not geologist, so one of them will have to answer this specific question. But as an archaeologist the evidence is clear--there was no global flood around 4350 years ago. My own research shows that in a couple of ways: continuity of Native American residential sites before and after the given date, and continuity of Native American mtDNA before and after the given date. This same thing, along with a lot of additional evidence, has been noted by archaeologists all over the world.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity. Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
When losing a debate shout louder. When I lose a debate I concede gracefully; but we are evidently two very different people.
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Dr Adequate Member Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Out of those six, which do you think is the best, the strongest, the most unanswerable? Well, see if you can answer the one about the Great Creationist Fossil Failure. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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edge Member (Idle past 1965 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
I was about to post that same image myself. The ultimate point for me, of course, is that moving water lays down strata at whatever rate it is moving.
Actually, moving water creates laminations not strata. You do understand the difference between the Walther's Law diagram and the cross-bedded sediments of Berthault, do you not?
So I'd see the flume experiments applying to rising sea water too since layers are being deposited with its movement.
The flume experiments have nothing to do with rising water. In fact, I'd say that the water stayed at the same level for the entire experiment.
It could be that the sea water doesn't deposit the layers simultaneously as we see in the flume (but I'm not sure).
Once again, you have some problems to work out. what direction is that water moving and how do flume experiments relate to rising sea level?
But if the water is rising fast enough to cover the earth to some depth within five months then we are certainly talking about rapid deposition and not millions of years.
Not really. We have been over this a number of times all ready. It is easily possible to have rapid sedimentation events ... millions of years ago. In fact, that is how geology has been taught, probably for a century at least. Rapid events are one of the first things that one learns in Geology 101.
The point about superposition is about timing: if the layers are being deposited pretty much simultaneously then the upper is not younger than the lower which is the usual understanding of the principle of superposition.
What do you mean by 'pretty much'? I cannot imagine a grain of sand settling into a position without another grain below it. AFAIK, a bed of cross-laminated sandstone is considered to be a single unit or stratum.
In any case, in either model, this is very rapid deposition and not slow formation of strata that mark long time periods.
Rapid deposition, as related above, is not a problem in an old age scenario. There have been millions of rapid deposition events in the history of the earth.
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