Black Holes, for Eta Carinae

I asked this on another forum and was told the probability is extreme...It's about the balloon analogy with expansion taking place from a fixed point..ie the centre of the universe if it were a spherical membrane of an expanding bubbleCould not black holes and wormholes act as balances and counterweights to ensure the centre remains where it has always been by re-directing energy/mass to where it needs to be so that instead of the membrane of the bubble expanding uniformly it can expand irregularly ???or how about these...from sum previous posts
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now throw in brane theory as bubbles within bubbles inflating from said static point like a pebble dropped in a spherical pond and you could get a multiverse that is expanding outwards at different frequencies and wave lengths (vibrations) travelling thru the same medium of "nothingness"
making it possible to occupy the same space and yet undetectable to each separate universe with black holes and wormholes leading to variously the edge, another place or another space and doing the ultimate balancing act by dispersing energy.so if each resonant wave/bubble is recreating itself for every instant and allowing for chaos then minor permutations would ensure infinite variations...a multiverse ?
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I wasn't thinking of chaos solving the vibration of our universe but maybe accounting for the difference between our universe and the others in a multiverseand I'm also suggesting that black holes aren't randomly distributed they're there for a purpose...to dissipate energy, shift mass and keep the universe in equilibrium----------------------------------------------------------------------kinda like constantly shifting tendrils rippling back, across and thru spacetime and the conscious nothingness that separates our universe from others in a multiverse situation----------------------------------------------------------------------sorry for the messy post but I'm in a bit of a rush, still it should'nt take much for you brainiac types to sort out

and pardon my ignorance but who is Brad Mcfall...do i really want to know or will I just get more confused ???I didn't realize the jury was still out on black holes and wormholes existence and along with all my other assumptions am assuming that matter gets converted to energy inside a black hole and consequently gets spat out......as you were

I doubt that it would make much difference...

...is this singularity the same singularity of the pre big bang and if so where is it and if not where is it and how can you have two of them ???[This message has been edited by RingoKid, 02-03-2004]

cheers man...so what happened to the bigbang singularity, did it all get converted to "everything" or could there still be a whole heap of it left at the frontier of an inflating universe where physical laws also break down ???and if the inflation is from a hypothetical fixed point could there not also be a singularity at the centre of the universe ???meaning the universe is finite but the inflation is infinite and cyclic.

oh, not the balloon again...if all of those things were right up next to each other then where was this ???

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If you picture the Big Bang as an explosion in pre-existing space, then the universe must have started off as a black hole, and it would still be a black hole

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exactly......black hole singularity in the beginning, on the outside and in the middle with the universe as an inflating membrane and black holes as tendrils rippling thru it becoming wormholes when separated from the edges and acting as counterweights to keep the centre fixedyou still get the expansion of dots/galaxies because the skin of the balloon is the universe...the analogy would be an expanding plasma ball lamppossible or not ???picture yourself on the outside of the universe looking at it, it's so simple to imagine like a big ol' doughnut rolling around on itself

yeah cjhs......I get all that but even a loaf of raisin bread can be perfectly balanced from some point in the middle of it, a centre of mass

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The center is back in the past, when the balloon was tiny, and all points on the skin of the balloon were very close to all other points on the skin of the balloon

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so what shape did this singularity have and where was it ???...see what i'm getting at, uniform gravity produces perfect spheres, expanding bubbles, sub atomic particles are all spherical aren't they and black holes are round and so are craters no matter what shape the meteor was ???an infinite universe expanding infinitely in all directions is just a copout for not looking for the centre of mass...isn't it ???

so what are the ramifications for a fixed mass and centre if the universe is finite ???and is it entirely not possible for it to be embedded in a larger medium ???...not like a "thing" in space but a thing in a nothing/voidas in a singularity in a void that explodes/expands...the singularity becomes "everything" "everywhere" but it is still expanding into the void/nothing

can you se my confusion......it's picturing the shape of the expansion cos it's predetermined by the analogy of the balloon hence sphericaltake thisit implies a curved bubble like structure as a membrane with a hole sinking into it leading to......if this gets any more confusing I'm gonna have to start another thread

I got time on my side and the interweb...that's the difference

yes yes......the surface is the surface and the volume is how loud a sound the balloon makes when you pop it or the mattress springs make when you jump up and down on it cos it depends on how much air is inside the balloon or how many springs in the mattress and what they're made out ofcan you tell me how thick the mattress is ???