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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Honestly, I really don't know the answers and think the answers may actually be important.
How far from the ideal has the US fallen.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Here's another google page. Ignore it if you like, it's up to you. Error 404 (Not Found)!!1&* And again Faith, the so called sources are all the usual suspects, the ones that have been shown to be liars. In addition the reports are once again simply innuendo.
Faith writes: And Front Page Mag:Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out - David Horowitz Yup, nutjob David Horowitz again. We know the claims Faith but where is there any evidence? Where is there more than innuendo? What does this have to do with the Berkley Riots?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith, you do understand that Marxism is certainly a legal and respectable political position in the US just as Communism or Socialism?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: I pointed out the Marxist theme in the BLM website itself. The "liberation movement" theme, the raised fist. If I read more of the site I'll probably find more. You can start by looking here for your Marxist Liberation Theme:
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I have to ask you Faith. Have you read Marx works? Have you read the vast library of writings from thinkers such as Leon Trotsky? Not the bullshit pushed by the modern so called Conservatives but rather what they actually wrote?
What do you find objectionable about Marxism?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That was not the question Faith.
Have you read the works of Marx and Trotsky? Not the 60s wannabees. But the real thing?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Again, you are just spouting propaganda.
Have you actually read the works and writings of Marx and Trotsky?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: BLM's Marxist terminology is Sixties Cultural Marxism, Marxism aimed against Western Civilization, "Critical Theory" which is nothing but an excuse for destructive rhetoric against everything good and solid in American culture.; It is a false narrative of oppressed classes, it turns injustices into a whole theory of class oppression which justifies defining a hated enemy, such as the white race in the case of blacks, such as men in the case of feminists. Anybody remember "the Society for Cutting Up Men" from the sixties? The rhetoric of Hate Whitey is in the BLM site. Marxism is a huge evil. Maybe even a bit like Islam since it focuses on hated enemies defined as the problem to be done away with. We know that you can parrot the Cultural Conservative Fascist Party Doctrine yet once again it is just assertion with no reasoned support or evidence. You cannot even show where Black Lives Matter focuses on hated enemies. Remember Faith, it is Trump who focuses on enemies instead of dealing with reality or issues. It is Trump who posts all the tweets about doing away with enemies. It was Trump's Minion Miller who said:
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Have you ever read the works Marx wrote?
Have you ever read the works Trotsky wrote? Have you ever read the Bible? Could the reason you are so clueless about Marxism be that like the Bible, you never actually read the material and instead are relying of what the apologists make up?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: Have you read Foucault, Derrida? I'm talking about the latest Marxists, who use Marx theories for completely new purposes. Have you read Marcuse, Adorno, Derek Jacoby?
Some, but as I said they are simply fanboys and what they write seems to have nothing to do with Marxism. It's kinda like what the Christian apologists write; it seems to have nothing to do with what's actually written in the Bible. So despite you trying to palm the pea and move the goal posts the questions remain. Have you ever read the works Marx wrote? Have you ever read the works Trotsky wrote? Have you ever read the Bible? Could the reason you are so clueless about Marxism be that like the Bible, you never actually read the material and instead are relying of what the apologists make up? AbE: and maybe Jacobi? But Critical Theory is a Tool. It's like a screwdriver or hammer, a tool to be used. Edited by jar, : see AbE:
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: I know you want to change the subject. I'm talking about modern Marxism whether you like it or not. Ever read Juliet Mitchell or any of the other Marxist feminists? PC comes out of all that stuff whether you like it or not. The terminology anhd symbology I've been talking about comes out of it. More utter nonsense Faith. Modern Marxism is something that simply does not exist. It's as silly as claiming that there is a single "Christianity" Juliet Mitchell is a feminist. A moderately successful one who had an effect on feminism in general. But feminism like Black Live Matter and Black Power and the whole Civil Rights Movement have nothing to do with Marxism. You really need to stop listening to the liars Faith.
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: The terminology I identified on the BLM site and in Genomicus' post is Marxist whether you like it or not. And Jesus was a Socialist Communist whether you like it or not! Want to play dueling assertions?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: You know nothing of Marxism and nothing of Christ either. But I have actually read the Bible and actually read many of the writings of Marx and Trotsky and works by Juliet Mitchell and works by Marcuse and Adorno and even the heretical dangerous "The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction" by Walter Benjamin as well as other Marxists you did not mention so I actually have a clue what is really in those writings instead of the bumper sticker propaganda you seem to prefer. What you claim as Marxist is simply a poorly done caricature of Marxism, a pitiful joke and as great a perversion as your caricature of Christianity. The facts are that in most cases riots are counter productive but in almost all cases happen for reasons. Whether it is opposition to the fascism being marketed by today's so called Conservative or the sheer ignorance that led to the Zoot Suit riots or the riots caused by the Conservative opposition to integration or the racism that led to the cities burning of the 60s and 70s, the causes are almost always oppression, not political philosophy.
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