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kjsimons Member Posts: 835 From: Orlando,FL Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
Doh, I must have forgotten to put on my tinfoil hat!
![]() LOL "AltReich AltNews", I hadn't seen this expression before is this your creation or borrowed?
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1725 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
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Percy Member Posts: 23156 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Here's my reaction to just one paragraph from a New York Times article describing the inauguration (Donald Trump Is Sworn In as President, Capping His Swift Ascent):
quote: Smashing shop windows? Wrong way to protest. And here's my reaction to Trump's inaugural speech (this link is to an annotated version, I couldn't find the text alone, though the text is led by a video of the speech).
quote: He's right in one sense. I believe everyone in the Senate is a multi-millionaire, and those in the House probably aren't doing badly either. How is that Obama is a multi-millionaire, $12.2 million according to Google. Politics should not be a route to riches. Those who hear its siren call should fare no better than teachers and policemen. And he's right in another sense. Washington and environs have become incredibly prosperous. Serving government should not be so lucrative. Lobbyists would not be paid so much if lobbying didn't work, and our politicians should not be for sale to those who can afford to put together the right package of campaign donations and charming and skilled persuaders.
quote: It's true that the manufacturing sector has declined, but it isn't because politicians prospered. Our manufacturing sector is a victim of our nation's success where wages rose to the point where they priced our workers out of jobs. Protective tariffs would insulate manufacturing against foreign competition but increase domestic prices. There are no simple solutions. Indications so far are that Trump favors tariffs.
quote: But nations do not exist in vacuum. When one nation in some way restricts access to its markets by other nations, those nations retaliate with restrictions of their own, and now both nations are poorer. This isn't to say that arriving at fairly matched competitive markets isn't complicated and difficult, but trade negotiations are the answer, not unilateral tariffs and dictating terms to trading partners.
quote: An education system flush with cash? He must be talking about the private schools his children attended.
quote: Depletion of our military? This is just false. We remain the greatest military on Earth, probably by a larger margin than at any time in our history.
quote: Here Trump is improperly conflating the integrity of our unthreatened borders with the defense of western Europe.
quote: And now Trump continues on to confusedly blame defense of western Europe for both making those countries rich (obviously they're not significantly different in wealth than ourselves) and making ourselves poor. Our spending on defense did not make western Europe rich and it did not bankrupt ourselves. Our greater spending on defense allowed us to dictate the approach to the cold war, and our military influence added to our economic influence is part of why Coke and Pepsi and MacDonald's and Burger King dominate world markets and not Schweppes and Brioche Dore.
quote: Am I reading this right? Is this a call for protectionism? If so, then that way lies world disaster. Worldwide wealth builds from mutually beneficial trade.
quote: Putting people to work at government expense building infrastructure is a good idea.
quote: Nations do best when working out mutually beneficial arrangements with partners.
quote: I kind of like the tone of this. After all, we broke Iraq in a way that gave birth to ISIS, so we bear great responsibility for fixing it. But the real way to eliminate radical Islam is to bring peace and prosperity to the region, not to conquer it. Military solutions are just another way of playing whack-a-mole. You can conquer them in one place, but they'll just rise up in another.
quote: Calls to nationalistic fervor like this are scary. This is how wars start. Sure, we all love our country, but we also realize that our own best interests are actually tied up in mutual self-interest with other nations.
quote: This is ironic, the man who manages to talk and talk while saying nothing specific calling for an end to empty talk. --Percy
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
This is ironic, the man who manages to talk and talk while saying nothing specific calling for an end to empty talk. Exactly. Trump did not say much of anything specific. The inauguration speech was essential a Valentine's Day card for his base. I'm not surprised that it was full of stuff that I am not onboard with. Over the next few months, we are going to see Trump in action as president. If I am going to complain from this point on, it is going to be about what he does and tries to do as president. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6190 Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Somewhere today I saw someone quote somebody quoting the second half of the original Pledge of Allegiance which was later replaced by the current one written by a Socialist:
quote:The gestures of the first half was to touch your forehead then your heart with your right hand. For the second half (" ... one country, one language, one flag!") the right arm was extended outwards in what we now consider a Nazi salute. Does not bode well for our country. Perhaps I'd better start brushing up on my heel-clicking. Edited by dwise1, : Added "... the second half of ... "
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6190 Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
But seriously. Trump is a salesman first and foremost. He will sell you a pig in a poke without even thinking about it. Of course, there comes a point where you open that poke and look inside to see that there's no pig there, that you have been cheated, but by that time the guy who had sold you that pig in a poke is long gone with your money.
Trump is still selling America a pig in a poke. Slowly but slowly America is going to open that poke and look inside to discover that he has lied to them and has cheated them. One word: Trump University. Did nobody learn from that? A family story in case you don't understand the expression. When my father was 8, his family moved to Texas. His mother sent him to the general store with a shopping list. The "old woman" behind the counter, about 18 years old, asked him "What's your'n?" which he misunderstood to be "urine" which led to her boxing his ears (in those days, the community's duty was to beat your child every time it dared to misbehave in any manner). As he was sitting outside crying, a man passing by asked him what was wrong, being a non-Texan understood the situation, and explained it to the poor kid. So now he had all the items on the shopping list and was trying in vain to carry them away in his arms. The "old woman" asked him if he wanted a poke. No! He had been hurt and traumatized enough, so he didn't need for her to poke him! But she insisted, saying that he needed a poke and she was going to give it to him. A poke was a sack to carry your goods in.
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Percy Member Posts: 23156 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
Article: Trump signs executive order that could effectively gut Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate
Trump last night signed an executive order directing federal agencies to ease the burden of Obamacare on "consumers, insurers, hospitals, doctors, pharmaceutical companies, states and others." Trumpian in its non-specificity, it apparently gives agencies the right to modify regulations created under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) that impose taxes or fees. Trump might think his executive order gives federal agencies the right to create regulations contrary to the ACA, i.e., contrary to current law, but any agency that does this should be challenged in federal court. We still have the rule of law, or at least I hope we do. As the article accurately states, "In general, federal rules cannot be undone with a pen stroke but require a new rulemaking process to replace or delete them." --Percy
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
Start another unnecessary war. Seems like all new presidents do that one, but he seems to have a particularly itchy trigger finger.
Diminish the strength of NATO, thereby increasing Russian influence. As much as it seems Putin has his finger wrapped around Trump, Mad Dog Mattis seems to have figured out Putin's game and has been very vocal that he presents the most significant existential threat to the U.S. So hopefully Trump will listen to his own Secretary when it comes to that (provided the information is accurate). But I do agree with Trump that positive relations with Russia is indeed an asset, not a liability, with the proviso that the US isn't getting played by Russia. I would like to see our pseudo-war with Russia to be over and to see true peace between the two... but I realize that is a lofty goal, nevertheless.
Start a trade war with any number of countries, including China. Trump has really bought in to the antiquated notion that in order to have a strong economy you have to consume national products over exports... which economists have been demonstrating is not really the case for like 2 decades now. Does he maybe have something small right about perhaps too much reliance on Chinese imports? Sure, maybe. But the overwhelming economic relationship between China and the US is not only good for the two nations economies, but also the world's overall economic health and stability. It also has the ancillary benefit of disincentivizing war between the two nations who, without those trade relations, surely would have ideological differences that may bring about military conflict.
Fill court vacancies with conservative judges, i.e., the Supreme Court and many other federal courts with vacancies. All presidents pander to their party line.... except maybe Reagan's choice of Sandra Day O'Connor.
Deport 2 to 3 million (Trump's number) criminal illegal aliens. Deport the rest of the illegal aliens. I have no problem with ICE or CBP doing their job, and I think protecting the border is fine within reason, but rounding people up in the manner he is suggesting will only create a very serious rift between the Mexican-American community that doesn't need to exist. Mexicans are as American as apple goddamn pie, if you ask me.
Build a wall between the US and Mexico. Literally one of the dumbest plans in human history... a monstrosity so costly on the taxpayers with, literally, no incentive. To think that a wall will keep people out in 2017 is so childishly naive, it's almost too much to believe... as if ladders, tunnels, or small amounts of explosives can't solve that.
Clamp down on Muslim immigration. I have zero problem with legitimate terrorist watch-lists, but I have a big problem with indiscriminately placing all muslims on a watch-list is a Hitlerian quality that needs to be avoided for rather obvious reasons.
Eliminate gun-free zones around schools and military bases. Eh... They don't do much except make small enhancements to charges. But I wouldn't necessarily get rid of them.
Eliminate and then not replace the Affordable Care Act. Great idea. That bill is an atrocious piece of legalese that is severely harming doctors in small practices.
Reduce Medicare coverage. I think he's been talking of expanding it in lieu of replacing ObamaCare, but I could be thinking of something else.
Reduce abortion rights. I'm pretty sure he advocates Roe v. Wade. People forget that he was a registered Democrat up to the the 1990's. A lot of people on the Left have been making assumptions about him like he must hate gay people... but he's actually been very supportive of gay rights.
Loosen environmental regulations, especially on coal. Hope not
Abandon international climate accords. That would be tragic
Reduce taxes on the rich. A flat tax makes everyone pay the same percentage. Having more money would mean more money taxed but not a higher percentage. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Percy Member Posts: 23156 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.7
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Hyroglyphx writes: Fill court vacancies with conservative judges, i.e., the Supreme Court and many other federal courts with vacancies. All presidents pander to their party line.... except maybe Reagan's choice of Sandra Day O'Connor. This was more a reference to the unusual number of currently open judgeships due to refusal of the Republican Senate to consider Obama appointees. The concern isn't that Trump will appoint conservative judges. Of course he will. The concern is the number of conservative judges he will be appointing at the beginning of his presidency, about double what is typical.
Eliminate and then not replace the Affordable Care Act. Great idea. That bill is an atrocious piece of legalese that is severely harming doctors in small practices. If this is true (how are small-practice doctors being harmed?) then fixing it might be considered, rather than scrapping a plan that helps provide health insurance to millions who previously had none.
Loosen environmental regulations, especially on coal. Hope not Trump believes the EPA puts American businesses at a disadvantage internationally and is in favor of reducing environmental regulations. He has singled coal out as being especially aggrieved.
Abandon international climate accords. That would be tragic Indeed, it is tragic that Trump doesn't accept the evidence that humans are primarily responsible for climate change, and that his EPA nominee is a climate change skeptic.
Reduce taxes on the rich. A flat tax makes everyone pay the same percentage. Having more money would mean more money taxed but not a higher percentage. I think the only flat tax Trump is proposing is for unincorporated businesses and capital gains, reductions in both cases. --Percy
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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He's right in one sense. I believe everyone in the Senate is a multi-millionaire, and those in the House probably aren't doing badly either. How is that Obama is a multi-millionaire, $12.2 million according to Google. Politics should not be a route to riches. Those who hear its siren call should fare no better than teachers and policemen. Obama entered the white house with a net worth of something like 2 million dollars. Let's recall that both he and Michelle worked at large law firms before entering public service. The president drew a salary of 400K for 8 years, and now his net worth is estimated at something between 7 and 12 million dollars[1] depending on who does the estimating. Now at the upper end of the estimating, there are some questions one might ask, but at the lower end, prudent investing, plus 8 years of salary, plus book royalties from a book written before he became president, plus winning the Noble Peace Prize (something like a million dollar award) easily explains Obama's increase in fortune. [1]http://time.com/...9729/barack-obama-net-worth-55th-birthday
quote: The same article lists the sources for Obama's income. I see nothing untoward in those sources. YMMV. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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Percy Member Posts: 23156 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
NoNukes writes: I see nothing untoward in those sources. Who said anything about untoward? It was a general point about the political class in agreement with Trump, that politics seems to be a route to riches when it shouldn't be, and Obama was an example. As an ex-president Obama can now go out on the speaking circuit commanding large fees. It isn't that something untoward is going on with the political class that is wrong. It's that it's possible to become wealthy through politics that is wrong. As with almost all Trump criticisms this one is remarkably free of details. It plays well as a sound bite. But I happen to agree with this one. --Percy
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1725 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
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nwr Member Posts: 6489 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: |
The campaign to impeach President Trump has begun
It won't go anywhere, until the Republicans decide that it is time to dump Trump.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1725 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
It won't go anywhere, until the Republicans decide that it is time to dump Trump. The equation for republicans is simple: no Trump means Mike Pence, one of theirs.
quote: It's only a matter of time before TrumpleThinSkin does something atrocious, like drum up a war with Iran by trying to make the Intelligence people create fake evidence. The equation for democrats is a bit more complex: no Trump means Mike Pence, plus possible republican back-lash, What will tip either equation towards impeachment is public outcry, showing massive opposition. Something on the order of the women's march and satellite rallies yesterday -- the largest single protest in US history -- but something that will have bipartisan support. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Percy Member Posts: 23156 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.7
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In the short term I think the FOIA request has a chance for some positive results.
In the longer term, it seems likely that Trump will commit a number of impeachable offenses during his presidency, but he probably is safe from impeachment while the Republicans control the Senate. The mid-term elections will be the earliest opportunity for the Democrats to take over the Senate, and by that time there should be plenty of impeachment ammunition. Anyone looking for inspiration? Try this: Pictures From Women’s Marches on Every Continent (literally, *every* continent) --Percy
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