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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined:
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New Cat's Eye writes: Part of opening yourself to God has a lot to do with submission and letting go. I think this is an important aspect that should be "a part" of everyone's healthy mental state. Situations and experiences are also generally different and nuanced, therefore they require a multitude of different strategies to navigate through them on a daily basis. If you go around always controlling, always dictating what's going to happen... you'll find yourself losing touch with how to empathize with others.If you go around always following, always bending to an outside will... you'll find yourself being swept away into other's worlds too much. It's important to do a bit of both, and find out your own personal balance for how much of each you need in order to feel healthy. There will be certain things you hold to be personally important - these you will need to exert a certain amount of personal control into them or else you'll feel like you're being swept away and pulled through life. An amount of resentment and frustration will build as you continually get pushed around on things you don't want to be doing. The results will always lead to stress and depression. There will be other things you will find curious to explore or maybe an uncomfortable feeling about how to proceed through a non-threatening environment - this is where the submissive aspect can flourish. Let your self flow naturally through these situations, be led by external cues (from God, others, anything...) The sensation of letting go includes a feeling of freedom and relaxation that can be very powerful. It can be a source of inspiration and creativity contrary to a situation where you're controlling... where you're likely doing things you understand fairly well and therefore taking rather familiar, biased actions. In my personal, non-professional opinion, of course There's nothing wrong with opening yourself up and becoming submissive... to others, to God, to anything...If it's something "newish" to you, then maybe it's something you've been missing in order to have a mentally healthy life. Like anything... just keep your head up, and watch out for when you're doing it too much. Again, "too much" is your own limit. No one else can tell you where that is. And finding it may well take some trial and error.
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I think this is an important aspect that should be "a part" of everyone's healthy mental state. Situations and experiences are also generally different and nuanced, therefore they require a multitude of different strategies to navigate through them on a daily basis. If you go around always controlling, always dictating what's going to happen... you'll find yourself losing touch with how to empathize with others.If you go around always following, always bending to an outside will... you'll find yourself being swept away into other's worlds too much. It's important to do a bit of both, and find out your own personal balance for how much of each you need in order to feel healthy. That sounds like what I've been learning about mindfulness in the difference between the thinking mind and the being mind. I've been running around with only the thinking mind forever now, and have just started learning how to tap into my being mind. It's very interesting and I'm finding it quite helpful
There will be certain things you hold to be personally important - these you will need to exert a certain amount of personal control into them or else you'll feel like you're being swept away and pulled through life. An amount of resentment and frustration will build as you continually get pushed around on things you don't want to be doing. The results will always lead to stress and depression. There will be other things you will find curious to explore or maybe an uncomfortable feeling about how to proceed through a non-threatening environment - this is where the submissive aspect can flourish. Let your self flow naturally through these situations, be led by external cues (from God, others, anything...) The sensation of letting go includes a feeling of freedom and relaxation that can be very powerful. It can be a source of inspiration and creativity contrary to a situation where you're controlling... where you're likely doing things you understand fairly well and therefore taking rather familiar, biased actions. Right, so just because you need to start using your being mind doesn't mean you have stop using your thinking mind sometimes too. You gotta use both!
Like anything... just keep your head up, and watch out for when you're doing it too much. Again, "too much" is your own limit. No one else can tell you where that is. And finding it may well take some trial and error. Yep, as with most things; balance is key.
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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: |
New Cat's Eye writes: That sounds like what I've been learning about mindfulness in the difference between the thinking mind and the being mind. I've been running around with only the thinking mind forever now, and have just started learning how to tap into my being mind. And then there's all sorts of stuff as you move along. 1 - Even if you "find your limits" there's nothing that says those limits/likes/dislikes can't change next week, next month, next year... People are generally fluid. We grow and adapt and change. Sometimes limits need to be re-tested, updated, re-evaluated. This is where meditation can be very helpful. And what if you want to change a limit, but you don't feel that you can? This is the sort of thing were we can "use our intelligence (mindful tools and such) to deal with or adapt our instincts (initial reactive feeling)." Serious, important tools like cognitive behavioral therapy or maybe easy, amateurish tools like focusing on and remembering a desired goal. 2 - Outside influences can sometimes be difficult to deal with. Just as a single example, let's take "being submissive." I think it's an important part of everyone that needs to be included at some level. However, there are many who would assume that anything associated with the word submissive is somehow weak or negative or otherwise 'something to avoid.' Because "they're a MAN!" A man ("good person") isn't someone who is not submissive. To prove this, you can just look at the people who would say that being submissive is a negative thing - these sorts of people are not the kind of folk I'd look up to in order to be "a man." Being a man is a lot of things - doing what needs doing, and taking responsibility for your actions/choices. Not being afraid of social back-lash for doing something you know is right, or personally just find fun as a hobby. Things like that. Not things like "stay away from the colour pink!" Or "wear this blindfold and walk into traffic!" People who don't understand themselves, and get swept into the world of TV and entertainment might say such things... but, of course, there's no attachment to reality for it, as far as I can tell.
Now you're a man! Oh, and I started playing Diablo 3 again. Apparently in the last few years they dumped the auction house, re-vamped the entire loot-drop system and it's super fun to play again! Wifey me and a buddy just started Season 9 (sort of like Diablo 2's "Ladders") and it's crazy fun! We've played, maybe... 5 nights? And we've had, like... 8-10 legendary drops each already... while leveling up. It's finally fun to play the actual game and get good loots!
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1 - Even if you "find your limits" there's nothing that says those limits/likes/dislikes can't change next week, next month, next year... People are generally fluid. We grow and adapt and change. Sometimes limits need to be re-tested, updated, re-evaluated. This is where meditation can be very helpful. And what if you want to change a limit, but you don't feel that you can? This is the sort of thing were we can "use our intelligence (mindful tools and such) to deal with or adapt our instincts (initial reactive feeling)." Serious, important tools like cognitive behavioral therapy or maybe easy, amateurish tools like focusing on and remembering a desired goal. 2 - Outside influences can sometimes be difficult to deal with. Just as a single example, let's take "being submissive." I think it's an important part of everyone that needs to be included at some level. However, there are many who would assume that anything associated with the word submissive is somehow weak or negative or otherwise 'something to avoid.' Because "they're a MAN!" Right on. I've never really cared about being that manly, but lately I've cared even less, and started caring more about what people might consider un-manly things. And I'm not afraid to admit it, nor am I ashamed.
I'll have to watch that later...
Oh, and I started playing Diablo 3 again. Apparently in the last few years they dumped the auction house, re-vamped the entire loot-drop system and it's super fun to play again! Wifey me and a buddy just started Season 9 (sort of like Diablo 2's "Ladders") and it's crazy fun! We've played, maybe... 5 nights? And we've had, like... 8-10 legendary drops each already... while leveling up. It's finally fun to play the actual game and get good loots! No shit!? I've been looking for a new(different) game to get into. I didn't like the old loot system in Diablo 3 so I quit playing it. This sound promising, I'm going to update it tonight. Are we already Battlenet friend (I can't remember)? I suppose I'll start a new guy... If I can't find you on Battlenet, I'll send you a PM here to let you know my nametag (I can't remeber that either).
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 311 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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The real question is; why do only the humble find God? For example, Saul of Tarsus. If he hadn't been humbly persecuting Christians, "destroying the church, entering house after house and dragging off men and women, delivering them to prison" and "breathing out threats of murder against the Lord's disciples", he'd never have met Jesus on the road to Damascus. Let this be a lesson to us all as to how to be humble.
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