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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
nwr writes: There's no evidence there to support your claim. As Mod seemed to accept my claim, Message 140 and Message 170, I suspect you either: never read my posts in full, are being willfully obtuse, or simply being dishonest. Back to my question:
Do you think the viewpoints of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi mothers, who lost many of their children due to Hillary’s enthusiastic support of Bush Jr.s immoral and illegal Iraq invasion, would also consider Hillary to be a credible potential President? Let's try using the golden rule: IF a foreign politician voted to murder your children and parents based on lies, a crime of aggression, would YOU think that person would make a credible potential president? It's a simple question that I'm quite confident you'll continue to avoid answering. Edited by dronestar, : clarity
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Mod seemed to get my claim. Perhaps you can try reading my posts in full.
Or possibly you are being willfully obtuse or dishonest?
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Jar writes: People might begin to take you seriously if they thought there was any hope you might ever be reasonable, rational or honest. It burns._________________________ Anyways, a pity that your stunted My sincere apologies Jar.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Look up "crime of aggression." Or read Mod's posts, Message 140 and Message 170, they can be understood by the simple-minded.
Errm, well, at least you can try.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Wow, you already read both of Mod's posts? Pretty impressive ringo.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Ramoss writes: Yes, I am sure. It was from a Lebanese massacre in 1982. Okay, my apologies, and thank you for correcting me Ramoss. I will use a different photo in the future. I am curious, . . . to prevent myself from making a similar error in the future, can you tell me how you identified this photo?
{I am going to do a PM with directions back to this message. The method I used is a Google image search. You can drag and drop any image into such a search and, among other things, the results will list many webpages that include the image. For the image in question, it was clear that it was indeed the 1982 Lebanese massacre. - Adminnemooseus} Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Answering question.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
(Topic is war criminals, so Godwin’s Law doesn’t apply.)
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nwr writes: No, [Mod] clearly does not accept your claims. *Chuckle* The most charitable excuse I can give you is that you have poor reading comprehension skills:
Mod writes: From a moral perspective, there is a case that Hillary conspired to start a war of aggression. nwr writes: But he disagrees on the legal argument (you mentioned war crimes, which is a legal position). Mod writes: Surely we can understand dronester's meaning and not worry about the awkwardness of language and making our lives more difficult by insisting on pedantry rather than trying to understand one another. ____
nwr writes: You still have not provided any evidence that she was a war criminal. Then it is difficult for me to believe you are not an idiot. In addition to Mod writing; "there is a case that Hillary conspired to start a war of aggression," I posted:
quote: I also posted . . .
quote:____ You can find many LEGAL opinions on the web condemning the invasion as illegal:
the International Commission of Jurists, the U.S.-based National Lawyers' Guild,[17] a group of 31 Canadian law professors, and the U.S.-based Lawyers' Committee on Nuclear Policy are of the view that the invasion was not supported by UN resolution and was therefore illegal.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_Iraq_War ____ The UN allows two exceptions for the invasion of a sovereign nation:1.Self-Defense 2.A definite decision on the part of the Security Council Neither of these provisions applies to the illegal invasion of Iraq. Blair/BushJr/Hillary gave up trying to get a Security Council resolution because they knew they were lying. But they did easily sell obvious lies of weapons-of-mass-destruction to a highly gullible and 'pro-war-crimes' public, . . . then simply invaded Iraq. A crime of aggression. A war of aggression. A war crime. Take your pick of terms for "the legal argument." A high percentage of amerikans approved. Just like the German public approved when Germany invaded Poland based on lies. Makes me wonder if Hitler was running for president today, would you also write that he was a merely flawed candidate?____ Regarding my simple and direct questions requiring a mere yes or no response:
Do you think the viewpoints of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi mothers, who lost many of their children due to Hillary’s enthusiastic support of Bush Jr.s immoral and illegal Iraq invasion, would also consider Hillary to be a credible potential President? IF a foreign politician voted to murder your children and parents based on lies, a crime of aggression, would YOU think that person would make a credible potential president? As history shows, when a participant is unwilling to answer a simple and direct yes/no question, it is because one doesn’t want to incriminate themself. Obviously. Again, I get it. You are deeply ashamed because you supported an alleged/unconvicted war-criminal. Thus, I am confident your mortification will force you to obfuscate and play the game of pedantry: "the legal argument." Pfft.
The International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg held following World War II that the waging of a war of aggression is: essentially an evil thing...to initiate a war of aggression...is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.[53]Legality of the Iraq War - Wikipedia The fact remains, the candidate that YOU support, according to The International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg, is responsible for:4,500 Americans killed (far larger number permanently wounded) up to a million innocent Iraqi civilians murdered trillionS of dollars of US taxpayers' money wasted anti-American extremism in reaction to the invasion and occupation which has spread and DIRECTLY produced the group ISIL. Kudos NWR, . . . kudos.
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
RingO writes: Apparently you have nothing of your own to say. Yes ringo, I have nothing to say. All my posts that I repeatedly urged you to read, are in fact, . . . blank posts. Edited by dronestar, :
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
nwr writes: Irrelevant. Clinton did not invade. Clinton did not order an invasion. It’s always entertaining when somebody repeatedly defends 1. The resolution that Hillary enthusiastically supported and cheered others to join her was:
quote: Just threatening a sovereign nation is a Crime Against Peace:
quote: Hillary ENTHUSIASTICALLY supported the attack:
quote: Hillary certainly had NO REGRET about authorizing the attack afterwards:
quote: It was only until Hillary thought about running for office did she start changing her tune:1. nwr writes: I was against Clinton in 2008, but not because of her vote. I was against her, because she was still defending that vote when should have been obvious by then that her vote was a mistake. 2. After no weapons of mass destruction were found, Hillary continued to enthusiastically FUND the murder of dark-skinned women and children for years, until suddenly she felt it was not a good idea to FUND murdering dark-skinned women and children while running for office. 3.Results of the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq that Hillary supported (until she decided she will run for office):up to a MILLION innocent Iraqi civilians murdered, INCLUDING WOMEN AND CHILDREN. (If I use an incorrectly labeled photograph, then I guess those deaths didn’t really happen.) 4,500 Americans killed (far larger number permanently wounded) trillionS of dollars of US taxpayers' money wasted anti-American extremism in reaction to the invasion and occupation which has spread and DIRECTLY produced the group ISIL. 4.Use of an incorrectly labeled photo?Considering that Hillary’s actions caused the countless dark-skinned murder of women and children in Iraq, Lebanon, Honduras, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt, Morocco, Afghanistan, Syria, Israel, and Yemen (not one comment from my recent post Message 257 huh?), and considering that the US is the worlds largest supplier of small weapons of mass destruction (that Hillary has supported, Message 257), I find all the indignant BS about me using a mere incorrectly labeled photo, yet giving Hillary’s lifetime of criminal actions a pass, specifically disgusting (but from war-crime supporters, typical). Hyroglyphx had it absolutely right about your glaring hypocrisy:
Hyro writes: You, sir, embody the duplicitous and ugly nature that is found within the Democratic Party. If ANY Republican candidate has done the things that she's done, you'd be morally outraged... But because it's your darling, you'll happily turn a blind eye while still asserting that you have the moral high ground. The best they had on Trump was that he commented on grabbing a chick's pussy (WHOA! STOP THE PRESSES! WHAT A SCANDAL!!) and he wants to vet the Syrian refugees that SHE FUCKING CREATED!? As Stein said:
quote: Way to keep defending Edited by Admin, : Fix links.
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