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NoNukes
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Message 418 of 427 (791836)
09-22-2016 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 417 by Faith
09-22-2016 10:19 PM


Re: Facts vs Beliefs again
I don't argue dating and I don't argue the fossil record. I expect to make my case with the issues I argue well. From the physical facts alone. And I believe I've done that.
Except that such a strategy cannot work for you because dating alone rules out any and all of your "interpretations". The fossil record works against you in a similar fashion. Ignoring that set of counter arguments is not addressed by any number of unrelated arguments.

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Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith

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Message 421 of 427 (791839)
09-22-2016 11:56 PM
Reply to: Message 419 by Faith
09-22-2016 11:34 PM


Re: Facts vs Beliefs again
If it is true that there is a natural end to evolution as I've argued many times, your dating methods are therefore wrong and your fossil order an illusion.
I can agree with what your above statement, but you've cheated a bit.
The evidence of the age of the earth, and the age of the human race, and that of other animals stands in the way of your demonstration regarding the natural end of evolution, and in the way of your interpretation of geology. If you offer other evidence for you positions and ignore the counter arguments against your position, then you cannot come anywhere near showing a natural end to evolution or an origin for the grand canyon of something less than 4500 years.
Secondly, the fossil order is what it is. The idea that it is an illusion is total nonsense.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith

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