Faith vs Science

That is such a bunch of garbage. Faith in the right things, true things, real things although unseen things, faith in the true God and His revelation in the Bible, can certainly lead to knowledge of things in the real world. Nobody is claiming faith "is supported by evidence or science," what we are claiming is that faith LEADS to knowledge that can be scientific.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I'm sure Phat had in mind that God won't let us find a certain kind of evidence, the kind that does fine for science but not for things of the spirit. For spiritual things, however, He's provided evidence galore.

Sorry to interrupt but I won't take long. You guys always think a supernatural event, a miracle, would convince you, but the fact is that you'd find some way to rationalize it away. And of course you won't accept miracles reported by others, you'd have to see it yourself. The Bible is full of witnessed miracles, witnessed by many people at once, but you won't accept those, always find some way to discredit them.All I wanted to say. Carry on.

\ What do you do with the NT passages that describe Jesus as that vengeful God?(Oh I'm sure I know: you tell yourself they were written by people who hold opinions you don't like so therefore they must be false. Oh well.)

Christianity does not. I grant that even some Christians think so but it doesn't. The Bible is full of evidence, and it was given so that people would believe. You have to call all the witnesses liars to reject the evidence given. That's the only way you can claim that the belief is unevidenced, after you've destroyed the evidence. There wouldn't be any experimental science if it weren't for Christianity. The first experimental scientists were Christians, who were inspired by the presentation of rational laws given by a rational God.Many Christians oppose evolution and the old earth but nothing else in science, nothing in the hard sciences. Evolution and the old earth cannot be proved because the past can't be proved; even your dating methods have to be assumed and can't be proved. Unfortunately the adherence to the false beliefs of the historical sciences skews the understanding of the facts.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.