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Coyote
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Message 391 of 1257 (788955)
08-08-2016 2:33 PM
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08-08-2016 1:32 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
Your explanations for things are becoming increasingly divorced from reality.
This is also a good part of why most folks pay no attention to the claims made by creationists.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 392 of 1257 (788956)
08-08-2016 2:40 PM
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08-08-2016 12:20 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
What's happened to the seafloor when it's become a rock? What's happened to the landscape when it's become a rock? What happened to the marine life that populated that seafloor; or to the land life that populated that landscape? Where did they go?
The rocks are still there, Faith. This is why there are sedimentary rocks.

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jar
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Message 393 of 1257 (788958)
08-08-2016 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 387 by Faith
08-08-2016 1:32 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
Faith writes:
No more seafloor; no more marine life that lived there. Life has to start all over again with each new time period because everything that lived during it is gone. Into the rock. Replaced by another. Higher on the evolutionary ladder according to y'all, but if the whole thing is gone, kaput, extinct, fossilized in the rock, there's no life left to evolve.
You say the absolutely silliest things. It is as though you are totally disconnected from reality.
No one but you has ever said anything that stupid.
Let me try yet again to keep it simple enough that you can understand.
Nothing unusual happens. Things continue just as they are today and have been happening on Earth for Billions of years.
Go back and slowly read Message 19. All of your questions are answered there and the process fully explained.
Look at the maps linked in Message 136 and Message 378 and Message 380.
Change has been continuous since the Earth took form.
As the land changed critters moved.
With change critters moved but the life span of even the longest lived critter is still very short. Life never started all over again and your fantasy as expressed above is simply silly.
The time periods are a human construct we created to aid in understanding but for the critters living during those times it was of no more significance than pointing out that you are living during the Holocene period.
The two significant factors though are:
that the geological processes have remained constant over the whole life of the Earth.
that the biological critters have not remained constant over time and the remains are grouped by common characteristics in an ordered fashion.
Your claim of "Higher on the evolutionary ladder according to y'all, but if the whole thing is gone, kaput, extinct, fossilized in the rock, there's no life left to evolve." is more nonsense and not anything anyone has told you.
There is no such thing as higher evolved. Let me repeat; there is no such thing as higher evolved.
There is change. Not higher change and lower change but just change. And the sole judge of how effective the change was is simply whether or not the species lives long enough to reproduce.
Faith writes:
Can't be, as I've said above, but let's say it is, then everything in it is dead and buried in those sediments, and there is no remaining life on the planet. Every time period has to start all over from scratch. All those supposedly evolving creatures had nothing to evolve from, and since they also got buried in the rock with their landscape nothing could have evolved from them either. No more time periods.
Again, they didn't go somewhere else. We know this because they are buried in the rock where you say their landscape had existed and in which they had lived, and there they are IN the rock. We don't find them in some other rock, just the rock of their own "time period."
Stop posting stupid stuff like the above.

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Message 394 of 1257 (788961)
08-08-2016 3:46 PM
Reply to: Message 388 by PaulK
08-08-2016 1:50 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
I'm not giving my own ideas, I'm giving a parody, I'm describing what must be the case if the standard theory is true. Absurd isn't it?

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Message 395 of 1257 (788962)
08-08-2016 3:50 PM
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08-08-2016 2:26 PM


Of course the rock wasn't replaced, I wasn't clear enough there. The landscape was replaced by a new landscape, that became rock in its turn.
By the way I'm glad you affirm original horizontality Perhaps you are unaware that Percy has declared it false and said I can't use the idea.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 396 of 1257 (788963)
08-08-2016 3:56 PM
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08-08-2016 3:46 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
I'm not giving my own ideas, I'm giving a parody, I'm describing what must be the case if the standard theory is true.
No.

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Message 397 of 1257 (788964)
08-08-2016 3:59 PM
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08-08-2016 3:46 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
quote:
I'm describing what must be the case if the standard theory is true.
No, you certainly are not. What you are describing sounds more like Flood geology. There I think we can legitimately ask how anything survived all the earlier disasters to be alive and making tracks in the later stages.

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Message 398 of 1257 (788965)
08-08-2016 4:18 PM
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08-08-2016 3:56 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
I'm not giving my own ideas, I'm giving a parody, I'm describing what must be the case if the standard theory is true.
No.
It's irrelevant if you don't agree with it. That is what I am doing.

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Message 399 of 1257 (788966)
08-08-2016 4:22 PM
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08-08-2016 3:59 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
Interestingly, when the illogic of the geo scenario of rock-landscape-rock is faced, the only possible explanation of the facts IS the Flood.

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PaulK
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Message 400 of 1257 (788968)
08-08-2016 4:40 PM
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08-08-2016 4:22 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
is there any chance of sensible discussion here ?
If you can't be bothered to understand the opposing viewpoint you could at least stop making up stupid strawman.

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Message 401 of 1257 (788969)
08-08-2016 4:42 PM
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08-08-2016 3:34 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
Faith writes:
No more seafloor; no more marine life that lived there. Life has to start all over again with each new time period because everything that lived during it is gone. Into the rock. Replaced by another. Higher on the evolutionary ladder according to y'all, but if the whole thing is gone, kaput, extinct, fossilized in the rock, there's no life left to evolve.
You say the absolutely silliest things. It is as though you are totally disconnected from reality.
What I was doing was following out the logic of the Geological position, not my own. I came to that conclusion from the evidence I gave. No surprise to me, standard Geology is indeed disconnected from reality.

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Message 402 of 1257 (788970)
08-08-2016 4:44 PM
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08-08-2016 4:40 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
I believe the evidence is clear and logical for the conclusions I have drawn. I know I need to refine it some.

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Message 403 of 1257 (788971)
08-08-2016 4:53 PM
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08-08-2016 4:44 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
I suggest actually learning about the evidence before jumping to conclusions based heavily on your own biases. You make that mistake over and over again and all you are doing is wasting everyone's time. Especially yours, since you only hurt your own case.
There is absolutely no reason to think that all life is exterminated at the end of each geological period. I suppose you are making your usual,error of assuming that the geological periods are sharply defined, and that the changeover from life typical of one period to the next is an equally sharp transition. If so, that is a mistake, not evidence.

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jar
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Message 404 of 1257 (788972)
08-08-2016 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 399 by Faith
08-08-2016 4:22 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
Faith writes:
Interestingly, when the illogic of the geo scenario of rock-landscape-rock is faced, the only possible explanation of the facts IS the Flood.
And as you have proven and admitted the Biblical flood cannot explain anything.
The Biblical flood is just a couple myths.
Edited by jar, : fix quote box

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Message 405 of 1257 (788973)
08-08-2016 5:11 PM
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08-08-2016 4:42 PM


Re: Where did the seafloor/landscape go?
What I was doing was following out the logic of the Geological position, not my own.
In that case, your understanding of the mainstream geological position is hopelessly distorted.
I came to that conclusion from the evidence I gave. No surprise to me, standard Geology is indeed disconnected from reality.
You have given us no evidence other than to say that mainstream historical geology is impossible.
When I ask you why, you say that 'I should know'. That is not an explanation, it is an assertion.

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