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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 603 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
RAZR answers marc9000 question about who is causing the earth to warm.
The human race as an aggregate whole, in spite of the efforts of some to decrease it. When you drive a car or ride a bus you are contributing. I take this to mean that man made additions of carbon dioxide warm the planet. Where is your proof?
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
foreveryoung writes: RAZR answers marc9000 question about who is causing the earth to warm. The human race as an aggregate whole, in spite of the efforts of some to decrease it. When you drive a car or ride a bus you are contributing. I take this to mean that man made additions of carbon dioxide warm the planet. Where is your proof? That is one of those truly stupid questions the totally ignorant and clueless bring up regularly and no matter how often folk laugh at their antics they never seem to learn. The issue is that global warming is happening. Whether the causes are natural or man made is totally irrelevant since the only causes we can deal with are those that are man made. The worst case scenario is if the causes are all natural; in that case we are simply up shits creek without a paddle. We do know though that there are man made contributions. And those we can address. Only a fool tries to assign blame instead of taking action where we actually can take action.My Sister's Website: Rose Hill Studios
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
I take this to mean that man made additions of carbon dioxide warm the planet. Where is your proof?
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 603 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
And how does this constitute proof? Show your work.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
And how does this constitute proof? Show your work. That's a measurement, not a calculation. This is, measurably, how carbon dioxide behaves. Therefore, it scatter infrared and so is a greenhouse gas.
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 603 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
How do you know the addition of greenhouse gases beyond that which already exist warm the planet?
Atmospheres warm planets beyond that which exists on planets with no atmospheres. What percentage of that extra warmth do you attribute to greenhouse gases and why?
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 603 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
If it's all natural, we are not up shit Creek without a paddle. The climate has changed significantly in the history of the earth and has flourished throughout.
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frako Member (Idle past 326 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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If it's all natural, we are not up shit Creek without a paddle. The climate has changed significantly in the history of the earth and has flourished throughout. Its not like we had any mass extinctions to worry about one now. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 603 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
And those had nothing to.do with co2. Plus, there was nothing man could have done about it.
There are currently many species extinctions going on now. I don't see us in any mortal danger. Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given. Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 326 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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Well actually one the biggest extinction event had a lot to do with c02, also known as the grate dying, 96% of all life went extinct do to a volcano igniting the largest deposit of coal, the spike in co2 caused the oceans to acidify killing of the fishes that then rotted and produced a whuge amount of methane spiraling global warming out of control.
But im glad you dont see us in any danger. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
foreveryoung writes: If it's all natural, we are not up shit Creek without a paddle. The climate has changed significantly in the history of the earth and has flourished throughout. You might not have noticed but we are not the Earth. Earth itself does not flourish, the lifeforms on the Earth flourish and no, they have not flourished throughout.My Sister's Website: Rose Hill Studios
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
How do you know the addition of greenhouse gases beyond that which already exist warm the planet? This is discussed here. Enjoy.
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 603 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
Prove your baseless assumptions.
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herebedragons Member (Idle past 878 days) Posts: 1517 From: Michigan Joined:
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I take this to mean that man made additions of carbon dioxide warm the planet. Where is your proof? I posted this a couple years ago as Message 157 It is a simply explanation of the evidence we have for anthropomorphic climate change.
quote: This is just simply no question that human activity, primarily the release of CO2 through the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation, is causing climate change. Absolutely no question. How much is human activity contributing to climate change? Well that can still be debated. Personally, I would say greater than 50%, probably closer to 80%. But whatever the percentage, we need to reduce our emissions. I am not one of the extremists who envision doom and gloom by the year 2050 if we don't completely switch to alternative sources immediately. But I do believe we have been exploiting the earth's resources and not incurring the full costs of those resources. Are you familiar with the concept of externalization (or externality)? It is when the cost of a good or service is borne by a party that did not choose to incur that cost. An example would be a $5 tee shirt that was made in Bangladesh (or wherever), you can get that shirt so cheap because the true cost of it has been externalized. Perhaps the working conditions and pay are very poor. Perhaps the dyes they use on the fabric are toxic, but the workers aren't given personal protective equipment. Those costs which should be included in the cost of the tee shirt are instead incurred by the workers in the form of poor health and awful living and working conditions. Energy has worked the same way. The environmental costs of cheap energy have been externalized to future generations. Our children and their children are going to be paying for our and our parents cheap energy. It is time to make a change. Let's just hope that whatever new technology comes along to replace fossil fuels isn't treated the same way - as a cheap alternative that we can defer the actual cost to future generations or under-developed nations. HBDWhoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca "Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem. Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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frako Member (Idle past 326 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
Others are doing it for me
High-resolution oxygen isotope records document the timing and magnitude of global warming across the Permian-Triassic (P-Tr) boundary. Oxygen isotope ratios measured on phosphate-bound oxygen in conodont apatite from the Meishan and Shangsi sections (South China) decrease by 2‰ in the latest Permian, translating into low-latitude surface water warming of 8 C. The oxygen isotope shift coincides with the negative shift in carbon isotope ratios of carbonates, suggesting that the addition of isotopically light carbon to the ocean-atmosphere system by Siberian Traps volcanism and related processes resulted in higher greenhouse gas levels and global warming. The major temperature rise started immediately before the main extinction phase, with maximum and harmful temperatures documented in the latest Permian (Meishan: bed 27). The coincidence of climate warming and the main pulse of extinction suggest that global warming was one of the causes of the collapse of the marine and terrestrial ecosystems. In addition, very warm climate conditions in the Early Triassic may have played a major role in the delayed recovery in the aftermath of the Permian-Triassic crisis. Climate warming in the latest Permian and the Permian—Triassic mass extinction | Geology | GeoScienceWorldChristianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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